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Wonder Woman vs 2016 Ghostbusters
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:17 pm
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 8:47 pm
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:29 pm to hawgfaninc
Yeah, it makes a difference when you write a coherent script, don't butcher a beloved franchise, and don't call all men either idiots, douchebags, or assholes. Ghostbusters message as far as I could tell was simply "frick men".
With Wonder Woman, oh you surrounded her with a good casting of supportive men. You don't make them all look like monstrous dicks. I never felt insulted watching it, while every time a man was on screen in Ghostbusters, they had to directly demean them. It's clear when they were writing the script and the fans weren't happy with the all woman recast, their only thoughts were, "oh we'll show all those basement dwelling assholes! All men are are a bunch of dumb dicks."
With Wonder Woman, oh you surrounded her with a good casting of supportive men. You don't make them all look like monstrous dicks. I never felt insulted watching it, while every time a man was on screen in Ghostbusters, they had to directly demean them. It's clear when they were writing the script and the fans weren't happy with the all woman recast, their only thoughts were, "oh we'll show all those basement dwelling assholes! All men are are a bunch of dumb dicks."
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:14 pm to hawgfaninc
It is sexist still
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:50 am to hawgfaninc
After reading about the Dan Akroyd interview talking about the 2016 movie reshoots and having WW compared to it to prove again that women-led films aren't automatically discounted due to sexism; it's fascinating how that stupid movie's lore lingers.
Frankly I can't wait until an oral history is done for the 2016 Ghostbusters 20 or 30 years from now. After all the producers,cast, crew, writers, Feig move past this, it'll be interesting to see what the hell they were thinking/doing once the trailer got chewed up on YT.
Frankly I can't wait until an oral history is done for the 2016 Ghostbusters 20 or 30 years from now. After all the producers,cast, crew, writers, Feig move past this, it'll be interesting to see what the hell they were thinking/doing once the trailer got chewed up on YT.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:58 am to hawgfaninc
What are you laughing at? Do you think that Facebook post is funny?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:47 am to hawgfaninc
Give that 2016 cast and budget to Patty Jenkins and Allan Heinberg, or the Russo brothers, or any number of directors and writers in Hollywood, and you'd get a good movie.
Feig went with the modern comedy concept of throwing a ton of jokes and comedic scenes together and thinking that it's enough to carry a film. That's fine for Neighbors or Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates. Ghostbusters is a series with an actual concept that people give a shite about. You can't just wing it and point to the pratfalls and dirty jokes and expect people to love it.
Feig went with the modern comedy concept of throwing a ton of jokes and comedic scenes together and thinking that it's enough to carry a film. That's fine for Neighbors or Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates. Ghostbusters is a series with an actual concept that people give a shite about. You can't just wing it and point to the pratfalls and dirty jokes and expect people to love it.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:19 am to hawgfaninc
Maybe it's as simple as a movie with a hot chick vs a movie with not so hot chicks. 
Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:02 pm to hawgfaninc
My son was in the hospital after breaking a bone in his elbow. While waiting on surgery, he turned on the TV. It only got one channel (some issue with their dish) and the new Ghostbusters was the only thing on. Mind you, this is an 11 year old kid, in pain, looking for something to distract him. He watched 5 minutes of it and said, "Nah", and turned it off. That's how bad it was.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:46 pm to hawgfaninc
It wasn't that people don't want a female hero or lead...
The reason the actors and SJWs got upset is because the public was saying...women aren't funny.
Since WW isn't supposed to be a comedy, people aren't turned off by it.
The reason the actors and SJWs got upset is because the public was saying...women aren't funny.
Since WW isn't supposed to be a comedy, people aren't turned off by it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:38 am to hawgfaninc
When Will Wonder Woman Be a Fat, Femme Woman of Color? (Ms Magazine)
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Indeed, there are many ways this film does not challenge the status quo. Without the first 15 minutes on the island, it wouldn’t pass the Bechdel Test. And it does nothing to challenge modern-day racist beauty standards.
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Why couldn’t Wonder Woman be a woman of color? When it was announced that Gadot would play Wonder Woman, audiences went wild body shaming her for not having large enough breasts. One can only imagine the white supremacy that would have emerged had the announcement said instead that she would be played by a Black woman. On Paradise Island, there are Black warriors in addition to white ones, which is a good start, but other women of color are missing. Also, while the female warriors are strong and arse-kicking, they all have tall, thin body types and they all could be models on a runway. In fact, in a pivotal battle scene, Wonder Woman struts across the battlefield as if on a catwalk. As a result, their physical strength plays second fiddle to their beauty, upholding the notion that in order to access power women must be beautiful in a traditional way. Especially with the body positivity movement gaining steam, the film could have spotlighted female warriors with fat, thick and short body types. While people have said that warriors can’t be fat, some of our best paid male athletes are, particularly linebackers on the football field, and no one doubts their physical strength.
quote:IWNHI
by Stephanie Abraham
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