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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:29 pm to lsu777
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:29 pm to lsu777
LSU777 - Okay mate thank you very much! I was looking at your Hypertrophy routine with rotating lifts and think i would quite enjoy it. Do you think it may be a little too much volume for someone in my position? Or is it just a case or trial and error on my part? I was also under the impression that you need to follow the same lifts consistently to progress on a programme, Will having so many exercises rotating make progress slower? Not questioning your knowledge .. just trying to get educated! And finally, what are your thoughts on borings recommended programme? Anything you would add or comment on?
BORING - Thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough response! I hugely appreciate it mate. A few questions regarding your response ... For the iso exercises, Do i choose one for each of the days? One for day A and one for day B or is it one to perform on both? Secondly, could i alternate between flat/incline for my bench press to up my numbers on both? Or will incline press help my flat anyway. And lastly, Are the exercises done as you have listed them or are the squat and dead to be performed last?
Sorry for the interrogation lads! Just really lost. Fully grateful for everyones help!
BORING - Thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough response! I hugely appreciate it mate. A few questions regarding your response ... For the iso exercises, Do i choose one for each of the days? One for day A and one for day B or is it one to perform on both? Secondly, could i alternate between flat/incline for my bench press to up my numbers on both? Or will incline press help my flat anyway. And lastly, Are the exercises done as you have listed them or are the squat and dead to be performed last?
Sorry for the interrogation lads! Just really lost. Fully grateful for everyones help!
Posted on 9/17/19 at 4:01 pm to Sharpy24
Either borings or mine is fine. I would suggest not rotating lifts for first 8-12 weeks. After that rotate them. Will allow you to progress over a longer period of time.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 4:04 pm to Sharpy24
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For the iso exercises, Do i choose one for each of the days? One for day A and one for day B or is it one to perform on both?
Ideally you'd have a different one for Day A and a different one for Day B. As hitting the same muscle over and over and over may ultimately be detrimental and if you can bring up a couple of muscle groups simultaneously then why not? Chest and shoulders lacking? DB Bench on A, DB shoulder press on B. Back and triceps not coming along? Pull downs on A, skullcrushers on B.
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Secondly, could i alternate between flat/incline for my bench press to up my numbers on both?
A great idea that is referred to by JP as rotating the lifts. It allows both lifts to progress for longer. Keep in mind, for most people their Incline Bench is only about 70-90% of their Flat Bench. So don't go in Day 1 thinking you're gonna be incline benching 225 or something. Each one should help the other improve and also you'll probably find your OHP increasing. My press has ALWAYS been better than my bench for whatever stupid reason and I have to believe that if I was a better bencher, it would improve even more.
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Are the exercises done as you have listed them or are the squat and dead to be performed last?
Uh everyone feels differently about this and I don't really think it matters all that much. Martin Berkhan (LeanGains) says do the same exercises in the same order every day. That's obviously unrealistic in a commercial gym - why would I just wait around for 30 minutes for a squat rack to open up in order to adhere to the same schedule when I could go find something else to knock out during my routine? A lot of Greyskull folks say to put squats and deads last, which I understand the logic behind. For me, there's a psychological benefit to knocking out the stuff I hate first, I'm also attacking it when I'm fresh/strong. In my case, that's squatting. There's no way in hell I'm going to put up a good squat session after I've done OHP and my accessory work...so I'll do squat first thing (assuming there's a rack open).
An additional thing I've found is that my chin ups suffer greatly if I do them after deadlifts. The opposite is not true, however. So you'll have to play around with that and see what works for you as far as exercise order goes.
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