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Discrimination is okay with Trump' s appointed Secretary of Education

Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Spaghettios
Member since Aug 2016
471 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:18 pm
According to Devoss it's now perfectly fine to discriminate against race, sexual orientation, and being disabled in federally funded schools.

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Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
145573 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:19 pm to
You are a mizzou fan. Your black students want their own safe spaces. STFU.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:20 pm to
Uh oh. Spaghettios
Posted by Spaghettios
Member since Aug 2016
471 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:21 pm to
So disabled students shouldn't be provided an education by schools receiving federal money? Yes or No?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
145573 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:23 pm to
Rephrase your question.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67776 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:24 pm to
You don't understand the concept of states rights do you?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:25 pm to
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So disabled students shouldn't be provided an education by schools receiving federal money? Yes or No?


Some should not. Sorry that hurts your feelings

Our local school has a disabled child right now that you, I, and everyone else knows has zero chance of being anything but a disabled person who will require round the clock assistance for the rest of their lives. The school doesn't educcate this child, they babysit this child, at a cost of $1.6M per year, for this ONE child , due to their disabilities. That's fully 1/10th of this school's budget. What the frick man?

For say $250K a year the school district could hire an in home caregiver and take care of all other costs associated with this child leaving $1.4M to help educate the children who are in the school, if the law allowed it, but they can't because SCOTUS has ruled that any child must be allowed into the school system and that the school MUST pay for anything necessary to "educate" that child, regardless of cost.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:28 pm to
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So disabled students shouldn't be provided an education by schools receiving federal money? Yes or No?


Every student should receive services at least equal to the level of federal funding given to the school for that student.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114984 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:30 pm to
Gifted and talented programs are being cut left and right meanwhile we spend inordinate amounts of money on kids that will never be productive in society. It sucks to say, but it is true.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:33 pm to
Obama made it mandatory to discriminate against white kids by making them write essays about "white privilege"
Posted by Spaghettios
Member since Aug 2016
471 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:36 pm to
So how do we pick and choose which students are too disabled to educate? Some students with disabilities can actually go on to live a productive life after school, even attend college. How will you tell the parent your child is too disabled to spend educational resources on?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:37 pm to
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So how do we pick and choose which students are too disabled to educate?


This is what is known as having to make adult decisions.

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How will you tell the parent your child is too disabled to spend educational resources on?

See above.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114984 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:38 pm to
You mean their feelings will be hurt?
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5902 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:38 pm to
Do you not trust state governments to lay the right framework for their school systems?
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
145573 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:39 pm to
You can donate to schools that help the disabled if this is important to you. Walk that walk, baw. Don't just talk that talk.

Like this...

"I'm so outraged and ate up about this that I'm going to open my wallet and donate $1000 to an educational charity for disabled kids. I'm tired of virtue signaling all the time. I'm not going to wait for mommy government to take care of those I claim to care about."

Try it. Hell, tell us about the good works and some of us will donate too.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57737 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:40 pm to
Devoss should stay within her lines of managing education and let the DOJ deal with the the civil rights issues.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:40 pm to
Left wing spin is hilariously dishonest
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:42 pm to
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Gifted and talented programs are being cut left and right meanwhile we spend inordinate amounts of money on kids that will never be productive in society. It sucks to say, but it is true.


It's making economic decisions based of emotion. Yes , of course I feel sorry for this child. And I have no problem with the money coming out of the school budget to make sure this child has the best care that is the most help to the parents as possible. But everyone should agree that spending 10% of the school's budget on one child isn't fair to other 1,569 students in that school district.

Now this only applies to a few really extreme cases, obviously. Most special needs kids are not this bad off, and just need some extra attention to help them get the most out of school, and that's another matter entirely.

Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:42 pm to
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So disabled students shouldn't be provided an education by schools receiving federal money? Yes or No?


Honestly? It depends on the level of disability.


Also, have you ever had the joy of having a kid spend a year in a classroom with a severely autistic,angry child with poor impulse control? My daughter had this experience in the second grade. The child was violent towards other children,the teacher as well as his "personal" assistant (a teacher who worked only with him all day,everyday). It was the worst year of my daughters life. She went to school scared and they rarely completed assignments in class. Their class fell behind others and they eventually had to break her class up into sections so they could sit in with other classes to try to catch up. It was awfully unfair to all involved. This was one class,at one school. Imagine how often this goes on nationwide.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
60233 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:43 pm to
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So disabled students shouldn't be provided an education by schools receiving federal money? Yes or No?


Where did you get the disabled bit? The school mentioned did not say they would deny access to the disabled!

Stretching much!

ETA
The woman then began to put forth hypotheticals. very scientific of her.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 1:46 pm
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