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re: Convince me why I should care if Trump worked with Russia
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:07 pm to Douboy
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:07 pm to Douboy
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How? Please answer one of us.
If stolen info released to the public changes one person's vote it has effected our democratic process.
If it changed as few as 100K votes spread across a few key states then it decided who would be president.
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:20 pm to Haughton99
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If stolen(OR ILLEGALLY OBTAINED) info released to the public changes one person's vote it has effected our democratic process.
Um.
Harry Reid says hi.
Well, him and basically every MSM outlet in existence.
Please recognize that you don't even believe what you typed.
And that's before we get to just made up horse shite info.........like, funny how those dozen or so woman assaulted by Trump suddenly disappeared into the ether.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:22 pm to Haughton99
Haughton is exactly right here. I amazed this is even a topic of discussion.
I live full time in Eastern Europe though I happen to be in the USA now doing some business deals.
In my country there are two extremely pro-Russian parties. One is almost over the top (wants the USSR back), the other one just says they want "good relations" (of course good relations means us leaving NATO, having Russian be an official second language, etc.).
Then there are some centrist parties.
Then there are some very openly pro West, pro USA, pro Freedom, Pro European parties.
Every day there is some news about virtually all of these parties (elections are in around two months). The moment anything is written about a "Russian" party the internet portals and message boards are bombarde with literally dozens of messages saying how these are great politicians, we need them as our leaders, this is the way forward to peace, etc.
The moment that something is written about one of the Pro Western and Pro American parties, the same bombardment takes place, these are the parties of war, America sucks, Capitalism isn't all that great, we need more security and less freedom (so we can have the security - that is always a trade off), Ukraine sucks, NATO sucks, Russia is great, etc.
As they develop their English language skills, watch them do this more and more on Amerian websites.
THAT is why we should care about this. It really is a diabolical plot to hurt Wester Democracies and countries that don't want to live the oligarch capitalism of Russia.
I live full time in Eastern Europe though I happen to be in the USA now doing some business deals.
In my country there are two extremely pro-Russian parties. One is almost over the top (wants the USSR back), the other one just says they want "good relations" (of course good relations means us leaving NATO, having Russian be an official second language, etc.).
Then there are some centrist parties.
Then there are some very openly pro West, pro USA, pro Freedom, Pro European parties.
Every day there is some news about virtually all of these parties (elections are in around two months). The moment anything is written about a "Russian" party the internet portals and message boards are bombarde with literally dozens of messages saying how these are great politicians, we need them as our leaders, this is the way forward to peace, etc.
The moment that something is written about one of the Pro Western and Pro American parties, the same bombardment takes place, these are the parties of war, America sucks, Capitalism isn't all that great, we need more security and less freedom (so we can have the security - that is always a trade off), Ukraine sucks, NATO sucks, Russia is great, etc.
As they develop their English language skills, watch them do this more and more on Amerian websites.
THAT is why we should care about this. It really is a diabolical plot to hurt Wester Democracies and countries that don't want to live the oligarch capitalism of Russia.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:30 pm to Haughton99
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If stolen info released to the public changes one person's vote it has effected our democratic process.
Not if there is credence to that info. Why would you not want to know the truth?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:46 pm to Haughton99
quote:
If stolen info released to the public changes one person's vote it has effected our democratic process.
If it changed as few as 100K votes spread across a few key states then it decided who would be president.
Go after every newpaper/media broadcast in America then. If Ashley Madison leak had changed an election, would we prosecute the media for publishing it upon them receiving stolen information from hackers? No. Russia played the media here. They "had" information. Simply passed it along, and the media ran with it
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