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Has the Left ever articulated what they suspect Trump and Russia of colluding over?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:51 am
This is the part that I don't understand. What is their imagined endgame here?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:53 am to SirWinston
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Has the Left ever articulated what they suspect Trump and Russia of colluding over?
Trump is a secret Russian agent who worked with elite hackers to find embarrassing emails and posted them to wikileaks while Russian spies hacked voting machines in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Hillary only lost the election because of Russians.
It's like you don't pay attention to CNN or Buzzfeed.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:54 am to SirWinston
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This is the part that I don't understand. What is their imagined endgame here?
Yes, It was Hillary's turn and they stole it...
its not fair.... it was her turn....
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:55 am to SirWinston
It's all about delegitimizing Trump. The leadership do not expect shite to come from this.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:56 am to NIH
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It's all about delegitimizing Trump.
dude "delegitimizes" himself
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:56 am to NIH
And of course, if it is the wikileaks exposure....they are admitting how damaging the content of the leaks were.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:56 am to dewster
Here is what we know happened.
Russian agents or hackers with ties to Russia, hacked the DNC and elements of the Clinton campaign and released the meals. Unfortunately for the DNC it showed them doing everything possible to fix the nomination for Hillary over Bernie.
So that being said, the Democrats must be hoping for 1 of the following.
1.) Trump campaign secretly asked the Kremlin to hack the emails
2.) Trump campaign didn't ask the Kremlin but had enough contacts around the Kremlin to know what was in the emails and when they would be dropped so they could position themselves for maximum political gain.
That's about all I can surmise.
Russian agents or hackers with ties to Russia, hacked the DNC and elements of the Clinton campaign and released the meals. Unfortunately for the DNC it showed them doing everything possible to fix the nomination for Hillary over Bernie.
So that being said, the Democrats must be hoping for 1 of the following.
1.) Trump campaign secretly asked the Kremlin to hack the emails
2.) Trump campaign didn't ask the Kremlin but had enough contacts around the Kremlin to know what was in the emails and when they would be dropped so they could position themselves for maximum political gain.
That's about all I can surmise.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:56 am to SirWinston
Colluding to rob Hillary of her turn.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:57 am to SirWinston
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Trump Russians; Russians Trump
All you need to know according to the left.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:57 am to Machine
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dude "delegitimizes" himself
He's the President of the US. Try again.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:58 am to blowmeauburn
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Russian agents or hackers with ties to Russia, hacked the DNC and elements of the Clinton campaign and released the meals. Unfortunately for the DNC it showed them doing everything possible to fix the nomination for Hillary over Bernie.
So this is about the Democratic Party being exposed as complete frauds?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:58 am to SirWinston
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Has the Left ever articulated what they suspect Trump and Russia of colluding over?
I believe it was hatched by the Clinton campaign in an effort to downplay and obfuscate the email scandal. More specifically, criticize HOW the emails were obtained rather than the substance contained therein. Ergo, we were hacked by the Russians, and because people involved, either directly or indirectly, with the Trump campaign at some point in time had connections with Russia, so they were somehow complicit in it.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:59 am to SirWinston
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What is their imagined endgame here?
To keep the swamp full of very brackish water.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:00 pm to blowmeauburn
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Russian agents or hackers with ties to Russia, hacked the DNC and elements of the Clinton campaign and released the meals. Unfortunately for the DNC it showed them doing everything possible to fix the nomination for Hillary over Berni
This has not been proven. Your choice is to believe politically motivated CIA and insider types who are allied with Obama and Soros and the military industrial complex or to believe Wikileaks and Julian Assange, who literally abhors everything that Trump stands for (except striking a blow agains the NWO).
I would trust Assange 100 out of 100 times in this scenario.
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2.) Trump campaign didn't ask the Kremlin but had enough contacts around the Kremlin to know what was in the emails and when they would be dropped so they could position themselves for maximum political gain.
The emails were quite obviously leaked by a DNC operative and phished out of Podesta's email AND retrieved from Weiner's laptop. There is no conspiracy.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:00 pm to SirWinston
There's more evidence supporting the Pizzagate theories than of Trump being a Russian agent.
There's more evidence that the source of the DNC leaks were internal than there are of Trump being a Russian agent.
There's more evidence that Hillary cut a deal to move Uranium to leach campaign dollars illegally.
There's more evidence that the source of the DNC leaks were internal than there are of Trump being a Russian agent.
There's more evidence that Hillary cut a deal to move Uranium to leach campaign dollars illegally.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:02 pm to Damone
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I believe it was hatched by the Clinton campaign in an effort to downplay and obfuscate the email scandal. More specifically, criticize HOW the emails were obtained rather than the substance contained therein. Ergo, we were hacked by the Russians, and because people involved, either directly or indirectly, with the Trump campaign at some point in time had connections with Russia, so they were somehow complicit in it.
I think this is right, but the strategy is so dumb. There is ultimately nothing for the US and Russia to "collude" over that is harmful to the US in any meaningful way.
The left and the Dems would be much better served to attack Trump on policy than on "Russia".
They are so stupid for taking their eye off the ball (ACHA) where they were getting meaningful traction and doing this
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:02 pm to SirWinston
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emails were quite obviously leaked by a DNC operative and phished out of Podesta's email AND retrieved from Weiner's laptop. There is no conspiracy.
Wikileaks has all but admitted Seth Rich was a source. Too bad they cannot name the person.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:02 pm to SirWinston
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This has not been proven
Exactly. Private and public sector entities are the subject of cyber attacks all the time. There's no evidence that any particular attack resulted in that public exposure.
We KNOW Podesta's was hacked (via crude phishing scheme). The DNC was likely an inside leak.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:03 pm to member12
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There's more evidence supporting the Pizzagate theories than of Trump being a Russian agent.
There's more evidence that the source of the DNC leaks were internal than there are of Trump being a Russian agent.
There's more evidence that Hillary cut a deal to move Uranium to leach campaign dollars illegally.
Yes, I agree with all of these things, and I guess my main point is that even if the Trump/Russia conspiracies WERE somehow true, there is no "there" there anyway. What the frick would Trump be conspiring with Putin over? We've been strategically at odds with Russia over virtually everything for the past 70 years.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:04 pm to Deuces
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Wikileaks has all but admitted Seth Rich was a source. Too bad they cannot name the person.
Seth Rich...the guy who was murdered but not robbed.
There is more smoke from that than there is from RUSSIANS!.
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