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Should the Saints adopt the Broncos season ticket policy?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:50 pm
Broncos take season tickets from those who sold theirs in 2016
May 5, 2017, 6:08 PM EDT
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May 5, 2017, 6:08 PM EDT
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The Denver Broncos have developed a new strategy for dealing with season-ticket holders who don’t use their season tickets. The Broncos have rescinded their rights.
According to the Denver Post, the team took away roughly 400 season tickets based on electronic tracking of the resale market. The team calls it an appropriate “weeding out” of the season-ticket base aimed at putting “more tickets in the hands of Denver Broncos fans.”
Some customers are upset, questioning the process of identifying that season-ticket holders did not use their tickets once in 2016 and arguing that no warning was given regarding the possible loss of season-ticket privileges.
The Broncos have a 75,000-person waiting list, so they can afford to eject those who may be selling tickets to fans of the visiting team and ensure that true Broncos fans get the seats.
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:28 pm to Mrwhodat
Before they do that they should ask themselves how good will this team be when Brees is gone? I think it will be tough to sell tickets then. It wasnt long ago you could walk down Canal St and get free tickets off the windshields of vehicles parked along the street.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:26 am to saintsfan1977
It is tough to sell tickets now when we start 1-3 and 0-4.
I think that if the fans are warned ahead of time and maybe given a probation status.
I will tell you that right now several of the tickets in the Dome are owned by brokers and the Front Office has to know that. So I think they could start there if they want to make a difference.
The Saints are one of the few franchises that do not have a PSL--Personal Seat License, so as a fan all that I am required to do is renew my season tickets from year to year. Other franchises can and will charge fees in to the 1000s for the right to purchase tickets for a fixed period of time.
As far as the resale is concerned I can see both sides of the argument especially because the Saints do not use a PSL. If you look at Stubhub you can sometimes find whole rows or stretches of 12-16 seats that have one single seller to me that screams Broker.
My counter argument would be that without warning sometimes in life situations happen. A few years ago I had major back surgery (Beginning Sept). I was having issues and pain right as the season kicked off. I could not walk for about 5 weeks, the next 3-4 weeks I was using a walker. Stairs and Curbs were a chore for another week or two. I think we only attended one game that year and might have been Week 14.
So I sold the remainder of those tickets. Plus we lived 400+ miles away at the time, so we would have only typically made 2-3 games anyway.
We now live in Mobile and go to about 4 games a year and sell the rest.
I think that if the fans are warned ahead of time and maybe given a probation status.
I will tell you that right now several of the tickets in the Dome are owned by brokers and the Front Office has to know that. So I think they could start there if they want to make a difference.
The Saints are one of the few franchises that do not have a PSL--Personal Seat License, so as a fan all that I am required to do is renew my season tickets from year to year. Other franchises can and will charge fees in to the 1000s for the right to purchase tickets for a fixed period of time.
As far as the resale is concerned I can see both sides of the argument especially because the Saints do not use a PSL. If you look at Stubhub you can sometimes find whole rows or stretches of 12-16 seats that have one single seller to me that screams Broker.
My counter argument would be that without warning sometimes in life situations happen. A few years ago I had major back surgery (Beginning Sept). I was having issues and pain right as the season kicked off. I could not walk for about 5 weeks, the next 3-4 weeks I was using a walker. Stairs and Curbs were a chore for another week or two. I think we only attended one game that year and might have been Week 14.
So I sold the remainder of those tickets. Plus we lived 400+ miles away at the time, so we would have only typically made 2-3 games anyway.
We now live in Mobile and go to about 4 games a year and sell the rest.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:55 am to Mrwhodat
the Saints waiting list for season tickets is the biggest lie going. The majority of those people just like to say they're on the waiting list but when the opportunity comes to buy tickets they pass. They always have a good excuse
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:26 am to CapperVin
I can tell you for a fact that is not true.
I understand that there are a few each year that get offered seats in areas that they are not willing to pay.
But the vast majority of season tickets holders renew their seats from one year to the next so say only 200-300 seats become available. Out of those maybe only 150-175 are in pairs, three or fours tickets that people desire.
I know this because the Saints give their season ticket holders first refusal of the new seats on the market...I'm not sure I agree with this, but none the less you may have Joe Blow sitting in Section 608 and 3 tickets becomes available for Section 612 and he buys them to have 3 extra season tickets. Maybe he gets them for his son or daughter--maybe he gets them for a friend or neighbor that is on the list. the next year he can transfer to their name.
I know by the time I get to look mostly all the pairs are gone except for the lowest levels which run $1500-2K a seat. So I can blame Levi in Slidell not wanting to spend 4K on two season tickets when he was hoping to pick up some $500 seats in the Terrace level for $1K for 2 season tickets.
I understand that there are a few each year that get offered seats in areas that they are not willing to pay.
But the vast majority of season tickets holders renew their seats from one year to the next so say only 200-300 seats become available. Out of those maybe only 150-175 are in pairs, three or fours tickets that people desire.
I know this because the Saints give their season ticket holders first refusal of the new seats on the market...I'm not sure I agree with this, but none the less you may have Joe Blow sitting in Section 608 and 3 tickets becomes available for Section 612 and he buys them to have 3 extra season tickets. Maybe he gets them for his son or daughter--maybe he gets them for a friend or neighbor that is on the list. the next year he can transfer to their name.
I know by the time I get to look mostly all the pairs are gone except for the lowest levels which run $1500-2K a seat. So I can blame Levi in Slidell not wanting to spend 4K on two season tickets when he was hoping to pick up some $500 seats in the Terrace level for $1K for 2 season tickets.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:29 am to CapperVin
It is a lie. If you want tickets call the office. If they have some available you can buy them right then and bypass the list.
There is no way I can believe that there is a list of 70,000 people waiting to buy something that has a hard time selling at face value. I had season tickets and got rid of them because when they renovated the Dome, my seats got pushed to the corner endzone. The view sucked and there was no other options at the time. I couldnt get face value for them even in winning years. (Plaza sideline)
I have been to enough games in the past to know that once Brees retires, # 15000 and above will be able to pick the seats of their choice.
There is no way I can believe that there is a list of 70,000 people waiting to buy something that has a hard time selling at face value. I had season tickets and got rid of them because when they renovated the Dome, my seats got pushed to the corner endzone. The view sucked and there was no other options at the time. I couldnt get face value for them even in winning years. (Plaza sideline)
I have been to enough games in the past to know that once Brees retires, # 15000 and above will be able to pick the seats of their choice.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 3:23 am
Posted on 5/6/17 at 7:11 am to saintsfan1977
Ive been a season ti ket holder since 2002 and have been to almost every game up until last year. I had alot going on with work and couldnt make any games so I had to sell. I would be pissed if the saints took my tickets because of that.
Also they did do this already ask sirwinston
Also they did do this already ask sirwinston
Posted on 5/6/17 at 7:28 am to diat150
I am not advocating that the Saints brass take away tickets from sellers. Im not a season ticket holder. I was but I am not anymore. I couldnt make all the games due to work. It would cost me quite a bit of money to take my family of 4 to one game with a decent view. It was $7000 a year for 4 seats. I sold 2 with the rights and he other 2 I gave them up a year later.
I stay at home and watch the games with no regrets. The Dome was fun but for the price it cost, I dont feel its worth it.
I stay at home and watch the games with no regrets. The Dome was fun but for the price it cost, I dont feel its worth it.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:10 am to Mrwhodat
My problem is how would the team set any reasonable parameters on that? If be beyond pissed if i couldn't make a couple games and sold them and got my tickets taken away.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:56 am to diat150
quote:
Ive been a season ti ket holder since 2002 and have been to almost every game up until last year. I had alot going on with work and couldnt make any games so I had to sell. I would be pissed if the saints took my tickets because of that.
But did you sell them to people you know for around face value, or did you put your tickets up on a broker site for 5x the value, 15 minutes after they showed up?
That's the assholes they are targeting. These scumbags who had zero intention of using them at all and act like season tickets are their personal ATM machine. Those people need to be stopped.
It infuriates me when tickets for a game sell out in 10 minutes, and 5 minutes later there are tickets for that game on StubHub for $1,000. Get a real job.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:15 am to tigerterrace
quote:I doubt that is true. I know some teams have PSLs, but I doubt that we are one of the few that do not. It would be interesting to know how many have PSLs.
The Saints are one of the few franchises that do not have a PSL--Personal Seat License, so as a fan all that I am required to do is renew my season tickets from year to year. Other franchises can and will charge fees in to the 1000s for the right to purchase tickets for a fixed period of time.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:40 am to lsutigers1992
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It infuriates me when tickets for a game sell out in 10 minutes, and 5 minutes later there are tickets for that game on StubHub for $1,000. Get a real job.
Either buy your tickets well in advance like today or closer to gametime. People that couldnt sell them for a profit, drop the price so they get at least something.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:50 am to Mrwhodat
No.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 9:54 am to Mrwhodat
No. People pay for season tickets, it's their right to do with them what they want. I'm a fan of capitalism.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 10:32 am to tigerterrace
when I had season tix they were in the club area on the sideline (the 300 dollar seats). I never could sell the ones I couldn't use for face value and the several rows in front of us were always filled with visiting fans
those seats were clearly owned by a broker
those seats were clearly owned by a broker
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:03 pm to Mrwhodat
They should and I wish the LSU would do this
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:04 pm to Mrwhodat
Congrats on the class action lawsuit Broncos!
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:38 pm to Mrwhodat
I mean, I'm about to get my tickets from my dad. He has supported the team as a season ticket holder for over 30 years. Through shite years and good ones. Now he's at the point where he's uninterested in going to every game, and is ready to pass the torch.However, I will probably sell at least half at face value in order to keep them in my name until I am financially stable enough to afford them out right on my own.Should I be punished for that?
Posted on 5/6/17 at 2:13 pm to Mrwhodat
The two seats next to me are owned by a guy in Philadelphia. In the 14 years I've been a season ticket owner, he's only been to ONE game (06 playoff game against the Eagles).
He sells his tickets online and there's a different person sitting next to me every game.
This is the type of people that need to get their tickets taken away.
He sells his tickets online and there's a different person sitting next to me every game.
This is the type of people that need to get their tickets taken away.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 4:16 pm to saintsfan1977
quote:
I will tell you that right now several of the tickets in the Dome are owned by brokers and the Front Office has to know that. So I think they could start there if they want to make a difference.
100% Correct, and most of those Brokers are on a first name bases with the ticket office.
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There is no way I can believe that there is a list of 70,000 people waiting to buy something that has a hard time selling at face value.
That's a Lie the saints or either urban legend created. Totally untrue, I know someone who is on the (LIST) and they get a call every year for 2k plaza and 3k Club level tickets. (they want end zone).
I lost on few extra tickets I had last year... Couldn't sell them for nothing, Nickels on the Dollar.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 3:35 am
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