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re: Which War Would Result In The Most Severe PTSD For Soldiers?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:39 pm to Sao
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:39 pm to Sao
WW1 by a mile. However the point about killing your country men has weight. Having an "enemy" not look anything like you (Vietnam) or even who does but doesn't speak your language (Nazis), you can dehumanize them. Someone who looks thinks and acts like you in everyday is a little harder.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:41 pm to Sao
WW1. Easily. Modernization of the battlefield, trench warfare, and chemical weapons.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:42 pm to Champagne
What are some of the better books or documentaries about battles like Verdun, Somme etc
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:43 pm to Jobu93
I will say this, though..
All the wars except for Vietnam and the GWOT you had a defined enemy, and thusly a defined front and safe zone.
Vietnam and GWOT you are fighting an asymmetrical warfare, where the guy selling knock off watches by day is building bombs by night. Not knowing who the enemy is has to be a tremendous burden, one that our professionals in the armed forces deal with admirably.
I don't know how I'd react if every dude was giving me the stink eye whilst I was on a patrol. The amount of self control those guys used/use is amazing to me.
All the wars except for Vietnam and the GWOT you had a defined enemy, and thusly a defined front and safe zone.
Vietnam and GWOT you are fighting an asymmetrical warfare, where the guy selling knock off watches by day is building bombs by night. Not knowing who the enemy is has to be a tremendous burden, one that our professionals in the armed forces deal with admirably.
I don't know how I'd react if every dude was giving me the stink eye whilst I was on a patrol. The amount of self control those guys used/use is amazing to me.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:44 pm to Sao
Pacific WWII beach landings. Not sure how you could come out of that mentality healthy.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:45 pm to Oyster
With the Old Breed is just brutal. Actually had bad dreams while and after reading it.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:49 pm to Jobu93
Just finished reading it. I can't imagine storming a beach or sitting there after you survive waiting on a banzai charge.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:51 pm to patchesohoulihan_007
I can see how you can dehumanize a Nazi, but more because of how evil Hitler was. Anybody who fights for that dude must not be worth being a human.
WWI would probably mess with me a lot though. Those soldiers didn't fight for some evil cause, they were just men fighting for the same thing we've always fought for.
WWI would probably mess with me a lot though. Those soldiers didn't fight for some evil cause, they were just men fighting for the same thing we've always fought for.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:51 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
war of the sexes
bitches take no prisoners
bitches take no prisoners
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:57 pm to Sao
WWI
This was the first war in which men were under the pressure of battle for days at a time with noe relief or relaxation.
The generals were using 100 year old tactics to fight modern machinery that had become exponentially more deadly such as machine guns and artillery that was ever increasing sophistication and lethality. Not to mention the lack of supplies due to automobiles not being in full force yet and horses not being able to maintain the supply properly.
WWI is probably the correct answer here
This was the first war in which men were under the pressure of battle for days at a time with noe relief or relaxation.
The generals were using 100 year old tactics to fight modern machinery that had become exponentially more deadly such as machine guns and artillery that was ever increasing sophistication and lethality. Not to mention the lack of supplies due to automobiles not being in full force yet and horses not being able to maintain the supply properly.
WWI is probably the correct answer here
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:58 pm to Sao
WW1 by a mile. Sleeping in a mixture of mud and the decomposing bodies of your comrades for months on end, dodging gas and artillery attacks. And if you get lucky, "going over the top", and charging entrenched machine gun positions.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:59 pm to Sao
Its gotta be WW1 followed by Civil War followed by WW2
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:01 pm to flyAU
Just listened to that. That war was so numbing. Just the fresking numbers of casualties in DAYS!!!! Not weeks or months
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:04 pm to Sao
Every war is traumatic. When a human kills another human or witnesses the killing of one, it messes with their brain. Only desensitized/sick people can get away with not having any negative feelings or trauma because of it.
That being said, The Great War was the most traumatizing when looking at all wars in a relative way. Soldiers of that era were not prepared for the heavily industrialized way it was fought. The massed introduction of very lethal artillery, poisonous gasses, flamethrowers, machine guns, etc changed everything.
ETA: From there, we'd have to look at the next radical change in the wars were fought and that has to be with guerilla tactics. Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq were/have been very traumatizing due to the way the enemy operated unseen by being in plain sight.
That being said, The Great War was the most traumatizing when looking at all wars in a relative way. Soldiers of that era were not prepared for the heavily industrialized way it was fought. The massed introduction of very lethal artillery, poisonous gasses, flamethrowers, machine guns, etc changed everything.
ETA: From there, we'd have to look at the next radical change in the wars were fought and that has to be with guerilla tactics. Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq were/have been very traumatizing due to the way the enemy operated unseen by being in plain sight.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:07 pm to upgrayedd
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On Ep.6 right now. Horrific shite on an unimaginable scale.
The one on Passchendaele is horrifying. I mean, it's all horrifying, but the stories of men drowning in the mud got to me.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:08 pm to Champagne
Also "at times" was all the time during the battles you mentioned.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:11 pm to northshorebamaman
You checked out wrath of the khans?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 7:14 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Yeah, that was great too. I'm on relistens now because I listen much faster than he can produce.
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