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Do some of these pundits intentionally over rate out talent
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:18 pm
to make our coach look bad for not winning it all; thus helping our enemies in the propaganda wars?
Who else remembers the mock draft last cycle with 7 LSU first rounders?
Fournette
Adams
White
Dupre
Neal
Pocic
Godchaux
LINK
Absurd, but I remember the finger pointing, controversy, and discussion it created much of it negative.
While the guy nailed some, he was way, way off on most of these guys.
Mock drafts have become the rage, but they are largely a real joke.
Who else remembers the mock draft last cycle with 7 LSU first rounders?
Fournette
Adams
White
Dupre
Neal
Pocic
Godchaux
LINK
Absurd, but I remember the finger pointing, controversy, and discussion it created much of it negative.
While the guy nailed some, he was way, way off on most of these guys.
Mock drafts have become the rage, but they are largely a real joke.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:24 pm to doubleb
These mean nothing a year ahead of time. Too many variables change. You could simply print a list of 5* players expected to declare, randomize the order, and come out with a better guess. In the month or 2 before the draft it's a fun way to get to know the players and guess who might be on your team.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:26 pm to doubleb
Neal seems like a fantastic young man, but I don't see how anyone could think of him as a first rounder.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:01 pm to doubleb
I believe in conspiracies, but I don't believe this one. More likely caused by a combination of over-exuberance and lust for hits/money.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:04 pm to doubleb
Stop posting man. Les didn't need help since 2012 to look like a complete joke. He was an abysmal coach his last 4+ years
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:09 pm to doubleb
Fournette, Adams, White: Nailed it
Dupre: Has first round talent, but had his worst year at a bad time. He really should have come back.
Neal: never had first round measurables, this was an atrocious inclusion in the mock and a lot of people questioned it at the time.
Pocic: Went in the 2nd round, so close enough
Godchaux: again, doesn't have first round measurables and had good, not great production.
Looks like Godchaux and Neal were the only bad inclusions, there was very little chance of those guys ever being picked in the first round.
Dupre: Has first round talent, but had his worst year at a bad time. He really should have come back.
Neal: never had first round measurables, this was an atrocious inclusion in the mock and a lot of people questioned it at the time.
Pocic: Went in the 2nd round, so close enough
Godchaux: again, doesn't have first round measurables and had good, not great production.
Looks like Godchaux and Neal were the only bad inclusions, there was very little chance of those guys ever being picked in the first round.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:23 pm to DallasTiger45
Dupre was no first round talent; thus the 7th round pick. You bought into the hype.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:27 pm to Elleshoe
Sure Les needed to be fired, but the myth that our team was loaded to the max is just that a myth that many like yourself bought into.
Just this week the talking heads were telling us how we'd have a record number drafted.
Neal, Godchaux, and Dupre never were close to first rounders; yet all we heard was how many first rounders we would have. Total joke.
Just this week the talking heads were telling us how we'd have a record number drafted.
Neal, Godchaux, and Dupre never were close to first rounders; yet all we heard was how many first rounders we would have. Total joke.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:35 pm to doubleb
No one believed Neal, Davon, or Malachi were more than where they went. Maybe Malachi in round 5
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:43 pm to Elleshoe
Many did early last year. They bought the BS hook line and sinker.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:44 pm to doubleb
I think they do overrate our talent, but I don't think it is intentional and certainly not for some kind of hokey conspiracy against our team or coaching staff.
the press is always looking for a story and some of what the grab onto is, by its nature, speculative. we usually have some damn good players, so they grab onto a few that seem like a good bet and pump them up in the media for something interesting to talk about.
the press is always looking for a story and some of what the grab onto is, by its nature, speculative. we usually have some damn good players, so they grab onto a few that seem like a good bet and pump them up in the media for something interesting to talk about.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 6:13 pm to doubleb
No. But you need to make sure you are using name brand tin foil to make your hat. The store brand stuff is not impervious to some of the most dangerous rays. Obviously, some of them have managed to seep through. Gotta keep your guard up, man!
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:01 pm to doubleb
The source you cited, for a lack of better words, blows
Their 2013 mock draft had Barkley going #1 overall and Tyler Wilson going #3 overall. The reason I remember this they had 3 tigers in the top 12.
Not a legit site
Their site's top 12 picks were
#1 Matt Barkley, QB, USC went #98
#2 Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU went #6
#3 Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas went #112
#4 Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State went #49
#5 Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia went #17
#6 Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah went #14
#7 Keenan Allen, WR, California went #76
#8 Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia went #39
#9 Robert Woods, WR, USC went #41
#10 Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU went #95
#11 Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee undrafted
#12 Eric Reid, S, LSU went #18
Their 2013 mock draft had Barkley going #1 overall and Tyler Wilson going #3 overall. The reason I remember this they had 3 tigers in the top 12.
quote:
#1 Cleveland Browns: Matt Barkley, QB, USC The Browns are a disaster. Mike Holmgren probably won't be back next year, so the new regime will look to distance itself from Brandon Weeden, a move made by possible because of the new CBA. Weeden was much better at Cincinnati, but that can be attributed to Trent Richardson's presence. The point is that if the Browns are drafting No. 1 overall, Weeden didn't prove himself to be a capable starter in this league. In that case, the Browns would certainly look to draft Matt Barkley The only issue is whether Barkley would actually agree to play for Cleveland, a la John Elway and Eli Manning. I guess it all depends on what sort of impression the new owner makes on the USC quarterback.
quote:
#3 Oakland Raiders: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas The Raiders are a mess right now, and part of the problem is Carson Palmer, who simply lacks the arm strength to be successful in this league. If Oakland continues to lose and ends up with a top-three pick, there is no doubt that it'll take a quarterback. In fact, the Raiders may have to move up to No. 2 to ensure that they can obtain Tyler Wilson, much like the Redskins and Browns did last year with Robert Griffin and Trent Richardson, respectively.
Not a legit site
Their site's top 12 picks were
#1 Matt Barkley, QB, USC went #98
#2 Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU went #6
#3 Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas went #112
#4 Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State went #49
#5 Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia went #17
#6 Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah went #14
#7 Keenan Allen, WR, California went #76
#8 Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia went #39
#9 Robert Woods, WR, USC went #41
#10 Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU went #95
#11 Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee undrafted
#12 Eric Reid, S, LSU went #18
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:07 pm to doubleb
the world is full of conspiracy lovers.
go but some cheap land in the woods, dig a hole and put a structure in it so you can survive the coming disasters, including (but not limited to) dirty bombs, nuclear war, financial collapse, asteroid collisions, famine, etc, etc.
just remember, not only is everybody out to get LSU, they are also out to get YOU.
go but some cheap land in the woods, dig a hole and put a structure in it so you can survive the coming disasters, including (but not limited to) dirty bombs, nuclear war, financial collapse, asteroid collisions, famine, etc, etc.
just remember, not only is everybody out to get LSU, they are also out to get YOU.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:31 pm to doubleb
Intentional? Don't think so.
Lazy, incompetent, overrated pundits trying to make a name for themselves? Yeah, that I believe.
Projecting 7 1st round picks from1 school is asinine. Even the great $abear has never had a draft like that.
Lazy, incompetent, overrated pundits trying to make a name for themselves? Yeah, that I believe.
Projecting 7 1st round picks from1 school is asinine. Even the great $abear has never had a draft like that.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:42 pm to doubleb
I'm now dumber for having read your post.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:21 am to doubleb
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to make our coach look bad for not winning it all; thus helping our enemies in the propaganda wars?
I don't think so. I think they over rate players at schools like LSU, Notre Dame and Texas because they know those schools' fans will pay for recruiting service material. It's a business.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:06 am to go ta hell ole miss
Pundits hate LSU!
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