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re: Is becoming an RN worth it?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:41 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:41 am to LNCHBOX
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What do you define as a basic RN job?
Your dad is a floor nurse in New Orleans making $53/hr?
ETA: saw your post, I'm assuming the answer is no.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:42 am to Epic Cajun
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Your dad is a floor nurse in New Orleans making $53/hr?
The goal posts have been moved. First it was RN can't makes 6 figures. Now it's floor nurse.
ETA: This is what the original claim was:
quote:quote:You're full of shite.
I'm an RN and make over $100k a year in Mississippi
My wife is an RN in Birmingham and just got promoted to a patient care liaison position which included a $10 an hour raise. She is still shy of 100k a year.
That's one of the most full of shite things I've ever heard.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:44 am to Restomod
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quote: CWOCN CRNA NP Because you need a bachelor's degree for graduate school
That's my point. You need at minimum a Bachelors degree to enter the programs. If you don't want to enter any advanced programs that's fine, but the BSN is not bullshite.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:45 am to LNCHBOX
I work with plenty RNs who make over 100k a year and don't work nights and weekends. They also aren't giving direct patient care.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:45 am to Gcockboi
Keep this in mind. You will be putting up with a-hole patients, their families and doctors, work evenings, nights, weekends and holidays.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:10 am to Restomod
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Because you need a bachelor's degree for graduate school
Beat me to it.
You'd need to get a bachelors in something within the program then do your grad work and clinical.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:11 am to LSU alum wannabe
So the BSN is not bullshite.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:12 am to BoogaBear
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You're full of shite. My wife is an RN in Birmingham and just got promoted to a patient care liaison position which included a $10 an hour raise. She is still shy of 100k a year.
Sorry, Booga, but He may not be full of shite..
I'm an RN in Louisiana and make in excess of $100,000/yr.
The certification which I hold has led to many possibilities and is not available to nurses without a BSN.
Many of my friends and acquaintances who are AD and Diploma nurses become very defensive about nurses who have a BSN and tout their "hands on training" during school. EVERY nurse eventually has the same experience but not every nurse has the academic background to pursue many professional opportunities. If nursing is to be recognized as a professional career, then there are certain standards which should be met, and my opinion is that Minimum of BSN is one of them. Rant over.
Sorry Isabelle, but I've done my time in ER, Home Health and been up to my eyeballs in body fluids - in my 35 years of nursing, I've never walked the halls in heels and pearls??
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:14 am to mikrit54
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So the BSN is not bullshite.
At one time it wasn't "needed" if you wanted to just be a staff nurse. Times are a changing and ADNs are being phased out.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:15 am to Gcockboi
Lol have fun with that scarlet letter
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:16 am to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
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Male nurse
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They really call men nurses???
What fricking century are you living in?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:16 am to Restomod
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At one time it wasn't "needed" if you wanted to just be a staff nurse. Times are a changing and ADNs are being phased out.
Exactly. As in LPNs being phased out in many instances.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:18 am to shotcaller1
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Lol have fun with that scarlet letter
What, are you 14?
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 11:10 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:19 am to Gcockboi
It is not a breeze at all and you have to pass math and science courses. If you make it, you will always have a job opportunity somewhere
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
Lots of mixed info in this thread. I manage more than 80 RN's and interview and hire 10-15 RN's a year. I have direct access to all payroll.
Truth is that many nurses make over 100K and not all work nights (although it adds 8-12K a year). Years of experience is the largest factor. Patient care nurses make 22.00/hr to 45/hr in most local institutions based on experience and certifications. With shift differential, weekend diff, holiday pay, PTO, ect the numbers can add up quickly. Most of the high-end earners do work 7 12 hour shifts a pay period so they end up with 8 hours of overtime each pay period. Overall, making 60-100K a year and having 185 days a year off is not a bad living.
From an overall perspective, if you don't enjoy working with and helping people don't go into nursing. The money is good but you will be a miserable nurse and adversely impact people.
ADN vs BSN has been covered thoroughly in this thread. Always a good idea to get he BSN but it can always be done after you start working with the ADN. I live in a city with 3 nursing programs and another 4 within 90 miles and we cannot get enough applicants now. We would never turn away a qualified applicant due to ADN vs BSN. But this is different in other markets.
Good luck
Truth is that many nurses make over 100K and not all work nights (although it adds 8-12K a year). Years of experience is the largest factor. Patient care nurses make 22.00/hr to 45/hr in most local institutions based on experience and certifications. With shift differential, weekend diff, holiday pay, PTO, ect the numbers can add up quickly. Most of the high-end earners do work 7 12 hour shifts a pay period so they end up with 8 hours of overtime each pay period. Overall, making 60-100K a year and having 185 days a year off is not a bad living.
From an overall perspective, if you don't enjoy working with and helping people don't go into nursing. The money is good but you will be a miserable nurse and adversely impact people.
ADN vs BSN has been covered thoroughly in this thread. Always a good idea to get he BSN but it can always be done after you start working with the ADN. I live in a city with 3 nursing programs and another 4 within 90 miles and we cannot get enough applicants now. We would never turn away a qualified applicant due to ADN vs BSN. But this is different in other markets.
Good luck
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:08 am to Gcockboi
It's always funny when a thread starts about being an RN because most people have no idea what they are talking about.
If you're planning to just start a program to become an RN you have to go BSN. Just go ahead and get it over with. It will give you a lot more opportunities and will not limit you on how you can advance your career in the future.
There are a ton of different nursing jobs with a ton of different work schedules. Most people only give information that they second hand know of someone who is a floor nurse who works 3 twelves, every other weekend, the occasional OT shift a week, and complains all the time about how hard they work or how underappreciated they are which is really annoying. I'm an RN and I work 4 10's a week and no weekends or holidays. Some jobs are almost exclusively direct patient care and some are very little to none. If you want an adrenaline filled work environment you can find that, if you want a more relaxed work environment, you can find that as well.
In school they will train you to be an RN and use floor nursing to do it. Your clinical rotations will all be on units and you may get a glimpse of other areas like the operating room, pacu, ect. but floor nursing will be the focus and that is what you will know when you get done with school.
Likely your first job will be on the floor. You may really like it, and that's great, but you may hate it and that's okay too. This is where people get stuck in a job they complain about all the time because they either don't know other types of jobs exist because you don't really learn about them in school, or they are too scared to leave the area they are in even though they hate it. You need to get that magical one year of experience and then if you don't like what you are doing change it. Most hospitals have a problem with RN's leaving after they get that one year of experience because you will likely be offered more money at another job than any raise you would get at your current job, people learn more about what they do and don't like about nursing in their first job, and sometimes it's just a bad place to work.
I don't know who it was in this thread that said RN's are making $20 but that is completely wrong. I started as a new grad at a little less that $30 an hour and in my experience my pay increased pretty rapidly in my first two years.
I would suggest that if you are single, don't mind moving around a little bit, and want to go ahead and pay off any student loans you may have, look into travel nursing. You could do it for a year or two, make over $50 an hour and get non taxable stipends, and probably erase any kind of debt you may have if this is your first college degree. Just like with other nursing job there are a ton of different travel nursing jobs with different benefits.
If you're planning to just start a program to become an RN you have to go BSN. Just go ahead and get it over with. It will give you a lot more opportunities and will not limit you on how you can advance your career in the future.
There are a ton of different nursing jobs with a ton of different work schedules. Most people only give information that they second hand know of someone who is a floor nurse who works 3 twelves, every other weekend, the occasional OT shift a week, and complains all the time about how hard they work or how underappreciated they are which is really annoying. I'm an RN and I work 4 10's a week and no weekends or holidays. Some jobs are almost exclusively direct patient care and some are very little to none. If you want an adrenaline filled work environment you can find that, if you want a more relaxed work environment, you can find that as well.
In school they will train you to be an RN and use floor nursing to do it. Your clinical rotations will all be on units and you may get a glimpse of other areas like the operating room, pacu, ect. but floor nursing will be the focus and that is what you will know when you get done with school.
Likely your first job will be on the floor. You may really like it, and that's great, but you may hate it and that's okay too. This is where people get stuck in a job they complain about all the time because they either don't know other types of jobs exist because you don't really learn about them in school, or they are too scared to leave the area they are in even though they hate it. You need to get that magical one year of experience and then if you don't like what you are doing change it. Most hospitals have a problem with RN's leaving after they get that one year of experience because you will likely be offered more money at another job than any raise you would get at your current job, people learn more about what they do and don't like about nursing in their first job, and sometimes it's just a bad place to work.
I don't know who it was in this thread that said RN's are making $20 but that is completely wrong. I started as a new grad at a little less that $30 an hour and in my experience my pay increased pretty rapidly in my first two years.
I would suggest that if you are single, don't mind moving around a little bit, and want to go ahead and pay off any student loans you may have, look into travel nursing. You could do it for a year or two, make over $50 an hour and get non taxable stipends, and probably erase any kind of debt you may have if this is your first college degree. Just like with other nursing job there are a ton of different travel nursing jobs with different benefits.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:16 am to GeauxTigers310
I can say for a fact that the 3 big Birmingham hospitals are around $23 base pay for a new grad RN.
Brookwood and Shelby are around the same, a little less.
Brookwood and Shelby are around the same, a little less.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:26 am to Gcockboi
You're not a RN with an associates degree. You'll be MA or a LPN. They make minimum wage basically and working in practices taking vitals, calling in PA's, and charting.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:36 am to WildcatMike
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You're not a RN with an associates degree. You'll be MA or a LPN. They make minimum wage basically and working in practices taking vitals, calling in PA's, and charting.
Incorrect.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:42 am to WildcatMike
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You're not a RN with an associates degree. You'll be MA or a LPN. They make minimum wage basically and working in practices taking vitals, calling in PA's, and charting.
You don't know what you are talking about. I know of a diploma nurse in my institution who works in Pediatric critical care that makes over 100K a year with no overtime. She is a rockstar nurse and never graduated from any university and trains every new nurse they hire (ADN or BSN).
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