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National Park Suggestions
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:20 pm
I am looking for suggestions on which national park to visit for great backpacking/hiking. I have never been to any of them so looking for any information
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:45 pm to NobleCrawfish
Look no further than Grand Teton National Park. I'd imagine Glacier is amazing, but I did 34 miles in GTNP last summer, and looking back, I don't know how I'll ever beat that.
Also, don't overlook/underestimate the state parks and national forests, which often contain several different wilderness sections. FAR fewer people than the parks!
24 miles in with 10 left to go. This was the high point in every sense of the word on the morning of day 3.
Also, don't overlook/underestimate the state parks and national forests, which often contain several different wilderness sections. FAR fewer people than the parks!
24 miles in with 10 left to go. This was the high point in every sense of the word on the morning of day 3.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:09 pm to bayoubengals88
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:17 pm to NobleCrawfish
Gates of the Arctic, Denali, Wrangell-St. Elias, Lake Clark
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:23 pm to Palmetto08
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Glacier National Park and spend a day in Whitefish.
I'll be your guide. I live in Whitefish and work at Glacier
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:35 pm to PNW
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I'll be your guide. I live in Whitefish and work at Glacier
Whitefish is awesome. Are locals still upset with Casey's? It had just opened and people weren't too happy with the look of it in downtown Whitefish.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:49 pm to NobleCrawfish
Where do you live?
How far are you willing to drive?
Fly?
What time of year?
What is your backpacking experience?
How far can you hike in a day?
There are so many great parks. I want to hike them all.
How far are you willing to drive?
Fly?
What time of year?
What is your backpacking experience?
How far can you hike in a day?
There are so many great parks. I want to hike them all.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:14 am to NobleCrawfish
I'm currently planning a trip to Washington. Unfortunately, it probably won't be until next summer. The plan is to start by spending time in Olympic National Park and Seattle. Then when I'm completely sick of all the people in my way, heading over to North Cascades National Park. If anyone has any tips, they would be appreciated.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:32 am to TheDude
North Cascades is a cool park. Like Olympic, it is mostly wilderness so most hikes may require a permit. There is a ton of backcountry.
I recommend the Diablo Lake Trail, although it's technically inside the Ross Lake NRA. While you're at it, go ahead and hike up to Sourdough Mountain. This trail will take you back into the NP. Awesome panoramic views of the whole area.
I don't know much about the South Unit, but there are some hikes available, including the PCT. I didn't do any South Unit hikes so check with the permit office. There are some cool waterfalls in the park, including this one off the Skagit River:
And FYI North Cascades is a big ole reservoir that supplies power to the Cascades of Washington. There are power lines throughout the drive inside the park and there is some cool history around Newhalem. This is where I camped; it was a good spot. No awesome views at this spot, but on a beautiful creek in a dense rainforest.
I recommend the Diablo Lake Trail, although it's technically inside the Ross Lake NRA. While you're at it, go ahead and hike up to Sourdough Mountain. This trail will take you back into the NP. Awesome panoramic views of the whole area.
I don't know much about the South Unit, but there are some hikes available, including the PCT. I didn't do any South Unit hikes so check with the permit office. There are some cool waterfalls in the park, including this one off the Skagit River:
And FYI North Cascades is a big ole reservoir that supplies power to the Cascades of Washington. There are power lines throughout the drive inside the park and there is some cool history around Newhalem. This is where I camped; it was a good spot. No awesome views at this spot, but on a beautiful creek in a dense rainforest.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 4/20/17 at 2:58 pm to NobleCrawfish
You won't find anything better than Glacier. But it's not easy to get to or find a campground spot in the park. And the season can start late because of snow pack. But it's worth it.
Rocky Mountain National Park has great hiking trails and areas to backpack in. It's easy to fly to Denver and Estes Park is close for lodging.
In the winter - Big Bend.
Rocky Mountain National Park has great hiking trails and areas to backpack in. It's easy to fly to Denver and Estes Park is close for lodging.
In the winter - Big Bend.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:16 pm to NobleCrawfish
I just found a relatively easy 26 miler in RMNP if you're interested.
Grand Lake, Big Meadow, Ptarmigan Pass
gentle elevation changes...
Grand Lake, Big Meadow, Ptarmigan Pass
gentle elevation changes...
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:16 pm to TheDude
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I'm currently planning a trip to Washington. Unfortunately, it probably won't be until next summer. The plan is to start by spending time in Olympic National Park and Seattle. Then when I'm completely sick of all the people in my way, heading over to North Cascades National Park. If anyone has any tips, they would be appreciated.
The Enchantments in North Cascade NP are the best. They limit the number of campers and give out spots via lottery. If you don't plan on going until next summer then put in for the camping lottery next February.
LINK
edited to add link
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:01 pm to jfturner212
If you can go the week after Labor Day most parks slow down a good bit. The weather will be cooler in the western mountains but chances of snow will not be that great yet.
I went to Yellowstone in mid September and felt like I had the place to myself. This was 20 years ago though.
I went to Yellowstone in mid September and felt like I had the place to myself. This was 20 years ago though.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:11 pm to Nodust
Grand Teton is an excellent suggestion. Loved it when I went through.
Kluane National Park is in Canada north of Haines Alaska. It's equally as amazing.
Wrangell-St.Elias is also another good suggestion.
Kluane National Park is in Canada north of Haines Alaska. It's equally as amazing.
Wrangell-St.Elias is also another good suggestion.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:12 am to gaetti15
Not sure where you are located but Big Bend National Park is a very cool place to go. It's a cool park because it is essentially 3 totally different environments in one park. It's also one of the darkest places in the country and the night sky is amazing!
Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:07 pm to PNW
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I'll be your guide. I live in Whitefish and work at Glacier
I'm not the OP but if you're serious, I'd love to reach out and get some advice. We are traveling to GNP next summer (2018) with small children and curious as to which, if any, hikes they could handle.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:38 pm to steve123
hike734
Check out that sight and get some maps. He has a video on every trail in Glacier. Great info. How far can your kids hike in a day. Go for a practice hike. Divide by two if you are on flat ground. Kids get bored before tired.
Iceberg Lake is 10 miles total and an easy grade. Worth the hike. Some hikes you can hike around a lake and then take the boat back. Learn the boats and busses and use them to shorten hikes and get you in some good scenery.
Check out that sight and get some maps. He has a video on every trail in Glacier. Great info. How far can your kids hike in a day. Go for a practice hike. Divide by two if you are on flat ground. Kids get bored before tired.
Iceberg Lake is 10 miles total and an easy grade. Worth the hike. Some hikes you can hike around a lake and then take the boat back. Learn the boats and busses and use them to shorten hikes and get you in some good scenery.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:28 pm to gaetti15
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Grand Teton is an excellent suggestion. Loved it when I went through.
Kluane National Park is in Canada north of Haines Alaska. It's equally as amazing.
Wrangell-St.Elias is also another good suggestion.
Kluane, Wrangell-St Elias, Alex- Tatshenshini and Glacier Bay form the worlds largest UNESCO heritage park at over 24 million acres
10 day raft trip on the Tatshenshini is incredible. I've done it a couple of times.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:31 pm to NobleCrawfish
I'm on the last day of a 10 day national park trip now. Best trip our family has ever done. We were looking to do challenging day hikes in an area of the country we had never been to. We are pretty fit parents with an older teenager.
Flew into Las Vegas and rented car. Spent night in Trump Hotel [bid and won on priceline].
Drove to Grand Canyon South Rim. Stopped at Hoover Dam [park in the "monument bridge Pat Tillman" parking area you see on the right and hike to middle of the bridge for best pic of dam then drive across dam, park for free on other side, walk to middle of dam, take pictures and then leave. Don't do tour or go to visitors center. Mass chaos.]. Got off highway at Seligman for shakes at Delgadillo's Snow Cap on rte 66.
Grand Canyon [3 nights]: Stayed in Kachina Lodge which was small room but next to rim so good. First evening, took shuttle to Hopi Point to watch sunset. Walked back a bit on rim trail and then hopped on shuttle back to room. The next morning we hiked S. Kaibab trail to Cedar Ridge then back up. Great hike. 3 miles roundtrip. That afternoon we went to visitor's center and museum and walked rim back to hotel from visitor's center. The next morning Dad and son hiked down Bright Angel trail to Plateau Point [12 miles roundtrip] while I hiked most of the rim trail towards Hermits Rest, hopping on the shuttle every once in a while for a break. Awesome day.
Drove to Page, Az. [one night] Stopped at Horseshoe Bend which was terrifying and nobody in the family really enjoyed it. Payoff wasn't worth the dusty hike through the desert. Did the Antelope Canyon tour with Ken's Tours. Nice. Spent the night at a nice Hampton Inn. The next morning we did the mountaintop jeep tour with Jeep Lake Powell which was wonderful. Drove that afternoon to Bryce Canyon National Park.
Bryce Canyon NP [one night] when we arrived, we drove to the end of the road along the rim at Yavimpa Point, had a snowball fight, and then stopped at each overlook on way back. Ate dinner in the lodge. Stayed overnight in lodge/cabin room which we loved. Very convenient. The next morning we did the "figure 8" Queens Garden, Peekaboo Loop, Navajo Loop hike. [6 or 7 miles total] Fantastic but challenging. Drove that afternoon to Zion NP.
Zion NP [3 nights] On the drive in, we did the Canyon Overlook Trail which is BEFORE the tunnel on the right side. Then we checked in to Cable Mountain Lodge in Springdale, UT which I highly recommend because it is the closest hotel to park and you just walk across the pedestrian bridge right behind the hotel and you are at the park visitor's center. The first afternoon, we rode shuttle to the very end and walked the Riverside Trail to the opening of the Narrows. The second day, we did the Weeping Rock hike [don't recommend, just meh] and then the Hidden Canyon hike [definitely recommend]. Because we were already one mile up that mountain, we said, what the hell, let's add on Observation Point which was phenomenal but did add an additional 6 miles. This makes for a 10 to 11 mile day with lots of elevation gain but we thought it was fantastic. The next day, I hiked the Watchman trail which I really enjoyed while dad and teenager did Angels Landing to Scout's Lookout [I told dad I would divorce him if he took my kid any further than that -- lots of deaths on the stretch after that point and, in any case, Observation Point hike was sketchy enough]. Then we met up at lodge and did Grotto trail to Kayenta to Emerald Pools then Lower Emerald Pools back to lodge.
Driving back to LV tomorrow.
Regrets:
(1) going to the visitor's center at the dam. It was so crowded we stood there, looked around, then walked back to car on other side of dam.
(2) that I didn't buy hiking poles until halfway through the trip
(3) only one night in Bryce. This was a really nice park and if we had a second night, I would have hiked the rim trail or the "under the rim" trail.
(4) That we didn't rent a motor home. They are ALL OVER Arizona and in every NP and gas station. Much cheaper than the cost of hotel rooms plus rental car and we wouldn't have had to pack and unpack repeatedly. We saw Cruise America, El Monte RV and BackroadsRV. Nice campgrounds in each NP [not sure about hook-ups though]
(5) that we didn't do this sooner
Tips:
Every day each person left with a bag that had water bottles [and/or camelbaks depending on length of hike], PB and J sandwiches, nuts, jerky, gummy candies, pretzels, protein bars, etc... I also had camera, sunscreen [and chapstick with spf], sunglasses and hats. Weather was variable. Hiking boots are a must and I had bought the guys zip-off leg Columbia pants from Amazon. The Columbia fishing shirts are good for keeping cool while protecting you from the sun. Cell phone service is non-existent when you are IN the park just fyi. I packed a suitcase with all of the snacks we needed that I bought at Costco, a few clothes detergent tabs, and our backpacks. On way to GC, we stopped at Wal Mart in Kingman I think and got bread and PB and J and bottled water, beer, and cokes and a cheap ice chest which we kept going during the trip. Saved tons of money. Ate breakfast bars for breakfast, pb and j and snacks for lunch while hiking on the trail. Dinners out.
It was fantastic, and we are now planning our next NP trip which will be Rocky Mountain NP this summer.
Flew into Las Vegas and rented car. Spent night in Trump Hotel [bid and won on priceline].
Drove to Grand Canyon South Rim. Stopped at Hoover Dam [park in the "monument bridge Pat Tillman" parking area you see on the right and hike to middle of the bridge for best pic of dam then drive across dam, park for free on other side, walk to middle of dam, take pictures and then leave. Don't do tour or go to visitors center. Mass chaos.]. Got off highway at Seligman for shakes at Delgadillo's Snow Cap on rte 66.
Grand Canyon [3 nights]: Stayed in Kachina Lodge which was small room but next to rim so good. First evening, took shuttle to Hopi Point to watch sunset. Walked back a bit on rim trail and then hopped on shuttle back to room. The next morning we hiked S. Kaibab trail to Cedar Ridge then back up. Great hike. 3 miles roundtrip. That afternoon we went to visitor's center and museum and walked rim back to hotel from visitor's center. The next morning Dad and son hiked down Bright Angel trail to Plateau Point [12 miles roundtrip] while I hiked most of the rim trail towards Hermits Rest, hopping on the shuttle every once in a while for a break. Awesome day.
Drove to Page, Az. [one night] Stopped at Horseshoe Bend which was terrifying and nobody in the family really enjoyed it. Payoff wasn't worth the dusty hike through the desert. Did the Antelope Canyon tour with Ken's Tours. Nice. Spent the night at a nice Hampton Inn. The next morning we did the mountaintop jeep tour with Jeep Lake Powell which was wonderful. Drove that afternoon to Bryce Canyon National Park.
Bryce Canyon NP [one night] when we arrived, we drove to the end of the road along the rim at Yavimpa Point, had a snowball fight, and then stopped at each overlook on way back. Ate dinner in the lodge. Stayed overnight in lodge/cabin room which we loved. Very convenient. The next morning we did the "figure 8" Queens Garden, Peekaboo Loop, Navajo Loop hike. [6 or 7 miles total] Fantastic but challenging. Drove that afternoon to Zion NP.
Zion NP [3 nights] On the drive in, we did the Canyon Overlook Trail which is BEFORE the tunnel on the right side. Then we checked in to Cable Mountain Lodge in Springdale, UT which I highly recommend because it is the closest hotel to park and you just walk across the pedestrian bridge right behind the hotel and you are at the park visitor's center. The first afternoon, we rode shuttle to the very end and walked the Riverside Trail to the opening of the Narrows. The second day, we did the Weeping Rock hike [don't recommend, just meh] and then the Hidden Canyon hike [definitely recommend]. Because we were already one mile up that mountain, we said, what the hell, let's add on Observation Point which was phenomenal but did add an additional 6 miles. This makes for a 10 to 11 mile day with lots of elevation gain but we thought it was fantastic. The next day, I hiked the Watchman trail which I really enjoyed while dad and teenager did Angels Landing to Scout's Lookout [I told dad I would divorce him if he took my kid any further than that -- lots of deaths on the stretch after that point and, in any case, Observation Point hike was sketchy enough]. Then we met up at lodge and did Grotto trail to Kayenta to Emerald Pools then Lower Emerald Pools back to lodge.
Driving back to LV tomorrow.
Regrets:
(1) going to the visitor's center at the dam. It was so crowded we stood there, looked around, then walked back to car on other side of dam.
(2) that I didn't buy hiking poles until halfway through the trip
(3) only one night in Bryce. This was a really nice park and if we had a second night, I would have hiked the rim trail or the "under the rim" trail.
(4) That we didn't rent a motor home. They are ALL OVER Arizona and in every NP and gas station. Much cheaper than the cost of hotel rooms plus rental car and we wouldn't have had to pack and unpack repeatedly. We saw Cruise America, El Monte RV and BackroadsRV. Nice campgrounds in each NP [not sure about hook-ups though]
(5) that we didn't do this sooner
Tips:
Every day each person left with a bag that had water bottles [and/or camelbaks depending on length of hike], PB and J sandwiches, nuts, jerky, gummy candies, pretzels, protein bars, etc... I also had camera, sunscreen [and chapstick with spf], sunglasses and hats. Weather was variable. Hiking boots are a must and I had bought the guys zip-off leg Columbia pants from Amazon. The Columbia fishing shirts are good for keeping cool while protecting you from the sun. Cell phone service is non-existent when you are IN the park just fyi. I packed a suitcase with all of the snacks we needed that I bought at Costco, a few clothes detergent tabs, and our backpacks. On way to GC, we stopped at Wal Mart in Kingman I think and got bread and PB and J and bottled water, beer, and cokes and a cheap ice chest which we kept going during the trip. Saved tons of money. Ate breakfast bars for breakfast, pb and j and snacks for lunch while hiking on the trail. Dinners out.
It was fantastic, and we are now planning our next NP trip which will be Rocky Mountain NP this summer.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:16 am to amgslg
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Flew into Las Vegas and rented car.
It's a great generic start to a road trip. Cheap flights and cars and a good starting point. I've done this 4 times and only spent one night in Vegas. Usually I start by hitting a Walmart after an early flight and buying cheap camping gear.
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