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re: MLS ratings down, attendance figures even more fictitious than previously thought
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:03 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:03 am to pvilleguru
I think the both the quality of the league currently and the (on field) improvements made over the last 5 or 6 years is dramatically overstated by MLS supporters.
MLS is what it is. I can enjoy it at times but I also feel it's holding back the game in this country more than its helping at this point and that's frustrating to me as an American soccer fan. So yeah I'm going to continue to be critical. The real question to me is why are some of you so willing to blindly accept the company line Garber puts out?
MLS is what it is. I can enjoy it at times but I also feel it's holding back the game in this country more than its helping at this point and that's frustrating to me as an American soccer fan. So yeah I'm going to continue to be critical. The real question to me is why are some of you so willing to blindly accept the company line Garber puts out?
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:06 am to lionward2014
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Or its proof that soccer is still the 4th or 5th sport in America, and the MLS has a crap TV deal.
I'm not talking about the American sporting public at large. Even self described soccer fans don't watch. They'd rather watch a short documentary on West Brom than an MLS match. Think about what that says about the product MLS is selling.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
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The real question to me is why are some of you so willing to blindly accept the company line Garber puts out?
I don't listen to a damn thing that Garber says, but you can't deny that the league better than 5 years ago and will get better in the future.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
Maybe it means that NBC Sports is a better channel than FS1?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
(1) This time of year is not the height of popularity for MLS. An 8% drop during the time of competing with March Madness, end of NBA regular season, The Masters, etc. seems meh.
(2) Not trusting any information that comes from a site called fieldofschemes
So, all in all, I'm personally not too worked up about any of this
(2) Not trusting any information that comes from a site called fieldofschemes
So, all in all, I'm personally not too worked up about any of this
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
American soccer fans aren't that different from the American sporting public at large. They prefer to watch the best leagues in the world for some time to come. Clubs with 100+ years of history over teams that started in 2005. Over half of the teams in MLS joined the league some time after 2004. So not a lot of people can say they've had a team to cheer for all their life. Hell, I didn't have a team within 550 miles of me until Orlando joined and they were still 400 miles away (even farther if you stick to roads). It's going to take time for some ties to grow. If you don't have ties to a team, would you rather watch the #3 league in the world or the #15?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:46 am to Draconian Sanctions
Weird stuff considering I was just at the Sporting game last weekend that had every sit filled plus another 1,000 SRO. Wonder where all of the ghosts were?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:58 am to TN Bhoy
It would be great if they can have one weekend match on a regular non-pay channel such as an NBC, or Fox, or CBS.
More and more people are moving away from ESPN and I am sure FSN as well...streaming tv services and bootleg soccer knowimsayin
More and more people are moving away from ESPN and I am sure FSN as well...streaming tv services and bootleg soccer knowimsayin
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:04 pm to TN Bhoy
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Maybe it means that NBC Sports is a better channel than FS1?
This. The West Brom documentary probably came right after a big match — again, for the most popular sports league in the world — on an actually decent network.
The lead-in for an early-season FS1 MLS game could've been god knows what, considering the terrible programming that network routinely has.
Context is important.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:08 pm to WarSlamEagle
It is usually Monster Jam or some other obscure sporting thing
too bad it isnt UFC
too bad it isnt UFC
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:20 pm to white beans
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MLS sucks bigly fam. Will never be successful, the best that we can hope for is that more regional leagues emerge organically as populations grow and interest in the sport increases. None of us will be alive when it happens.
wow and people said I was an MLS hater
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:44 pm to TN Bhoy
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Maybe it means that NBC Sports is a better channel than FS1?
Fox's soccer coverage is disgraceful
Its been down hill for a while and got even worse when FSC was done with. So glad they won't be covering the champions league anymore.
That signal quality watching champions league matches is a joke.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:44 pm to pvilleguru
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Instead we have MLS, which takes all the worst aspects of the major American leagues and shoehorns them into a sport and world market which they are completely incompatible with. And then they wonder why 90% or more of the US soccer audience ignores them.
Not disagreeing but what specifically are you referring to?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:54 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The real question to me is why are some of you so willing to blindly accept the company line Garber puts out?
Because no one is paying attention to Garber. People here are simply watching the league, watching their local teams, and for the most part enjoying it. It's easy to see the league improving. Everyone here probably has complaints about MLS too, but they are reasonable and appreciate the good they have rather than sitting around bitching it's not the league of their fantasies.
Why do you expect us to blindly accept your opinions on MLS? Did you think your links to mlsisataxshelter.livejournal.tumblr.com was convincing to reasonable people?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:27 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I'm not a hater, just an honest person. MLS will always be a plastic product doomed to commercial failure and relative inferiority in class and culture.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:55 pm to white beans
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MLS will always be a plastic product doomed to commercial failure and relative inferiority in class and culture
What?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:56 pm to white beans
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Why do you expect us to blindly accept your opinions on MLS? Did you think your links to mlsisataxshelter.livejournal.tumblr.com was convincing to reasonable people?
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MLS will always be a plastic product doomed to commercial failure and relative inferiority in class and culture.
Wat
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:15 pm to white beans
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plastic product doomed to commercial failure and relative inferiority in class and culture
MLS isn't real football like your local [insert commercial giant European superclub that this guy supports]
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:27 pm to Cocotheape
It's definitely real, just wholly unappealing. On par with the CFL and other similar contrivances.
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