re: Healthcare is back on the menu, boys

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but the libs told me Trump's preidency is over!

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It was a completely juvenile celebration by the libs and the MSM.

They are now pre-establishing their talking point, just in case there is only a repeal, or by chance a better bill is passed

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It was a completely juvenile celebration by the libs and the MSM.

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Places like DU, Daily Kos, etc. aside, who was saying (especially in the MSM) that his presidency was over and that healthcare would never be addressed again?

I feel like you guys are creating some weird group-think Strawman to argue some comeback victory or something.

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In a sane country Dems and pubs would be working together to forge a healthcare policy that would be in the best interest of America.

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That would require them to remove themselves from it. Not going to happen. Too much opportunity for graft.

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who was saying (especially in the MSM . . . . I feel like you guys are creating some weird group-think Strawman to argue

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Republicans will try to move ahead on other agenda items, including overhauling the tax code, though the failure on the health bill can only make whatever comes next immeasurably harder.

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NBC

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The House meltdown on Obamacare repeal has perilous implications for the American health care system, with Republicans apparently unable to repeal the law but also unwilling to fix the deficiencies that the White House says will collapse the law. - ABCNews

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That place is a legislative desert – no big accomplishments and none in sight anytime soon. Tax reform and infrastructure spending are next, but the same GOP divisions loom. - CBSNews

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Despite promising for seven years to repeal former Obama’s signature achievement, Republican leaders now face a painful reality: Obamacare, the largest expansion of government entitlements in a generation, is here to stay. The defeat suggests a trying future for the Republican legislative agenda. - Time

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But the effort's ignominious defeat Friday has severely weakened the President, electrified Democrats and left Trump's declarations that he is the ultimate dealmaker who can change Washington looking increasingly hollow. - CNN

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The actions of today throw great doubt into the President and his agenda going forward. - MSNBC

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Trump's desire to pass sweeping overhauls of taxes, immigration, and trade deals — even must-pass legislation like a debt-ceiling increase — is newly in doubt. - Business Insider

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Or, maybe it's the other way around.

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Last week they bent over backwards to get the Freedom Caucus to the point where it cost them moderate Republicans- why not move to the moderates this time and tell the Freedom Caucus to suck it up.

I heard Rachel Maddow call Trump a "failure" after his health care "debacle."

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Is there feasible possibility where preexisting conditions still have some sort of coverage, while separating it from the rest of the insurance policies of everybody else? Frankly, I would rather the government provided support for those individuals, and stop with the subsidies for others, especially if they diminish the costs by separating out the preexisting conditions.

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Healthcare Economists on both the left and the right have floated high risk pools for people like your mom. The problem with them is that they're extremely expensive (they're not really health insurance- the costs aren't spread they're all borne by the unhealthy and thus the system would need huge, constant infusions of federal funds to remain solvent-- its why Trumpcare had the 30% premium penalty and Obamacare the mandate to ensure young healthy consumers are in the system as well as the sick).

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I heard Rachel Maddow call Trump a "failure" after his health care "debacle."

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And she's included with the DUband Daily Kos. Like Hannity on the right, she's a political entertainer whose only purpose is to give a hyperpartisan opinion, regardless of the truth.

League Champs was pointing out news articles (see above) that literally used Trump's own words in their articles.