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Should we invest into tesla?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:12 am
Saw one of their cars for the first time other day and damn it's nice. for 35k you can get a future mobile which may eventually make our gas cars useless.
Should we be selling our gas cars for teslas now?
Should we be selling our gas cars for teslas now?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:13 am to fareplay
You go ahead, I'm going to wait a little bit longer.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:14 am to fareplay
wish you would have posted this in the oil thread
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:14 am to fareplay
go with the P90D they are fine and fast as hell
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:14 am to fareplay
$252+ per share, i dont have the kind of money to buy a ton of shares but go for it
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:14 am to fareplay
Tesla coils.
For the wall.
For the wall.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:15 am to fareplay
quote:
Saw one of their cars for the first time other day
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:17 am to fareplay
Have you ever talked to a Tessa owner that didn't rave? It's either a great car or people don't want to admit they made a bad purchase. At this point I'm thinking it's the former.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:20 am to fareplay
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for 35k you can get a future mobile which may eventually make our gas cars useless.
Should we be selling our gas cars for teslas now?
If I were to put 35k into a car right now, I'd try to low-ball the owner of this car.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:20 am to fareplay
Not until electric charging stations become nearly as common as gas stations and they make electric trucks that can haul shite, tow a boat, and do well off pavement.
Until that time comes, drill baby drill
Until that time comes, drill baby drill
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:21 am to fareplay
If you want a Tesla, then get you one. Don't buy or not buy a vehicle based on what other people think.
If it's right for you, great. But that doesn't mean everyone is going to want one.
If it's right for you, great. But that doesn't mean everyone is going to want one.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:22 am to fareplay
quote:congrats on getting out of that coma
Saw one of their cars for the first time other day
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:29 am to fareplay
Went to a tesla dealership in Jacksonville last week. Cool place
What's the deal with only certain areas and states being able to sell them?
Antiquated laws? I honestly don't know the rules to all that
What's the deal with only certain areas and states being able to sell them?
Antiquated laws? I honestly don't know the rules to all that
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:55 am to fareplay
Isn't charging station like 5-10K
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:01 am to fareplay
you just saw your first tesla???? What part of bumblefrick do you live in? I see multiple daily. The P100D is the fastest car on earth 0-60 in 2.27 seconds for $150k give or take. The $35k model 3 is the absolute base and there's a waitlist of 400k give or take so you wont see one for $35k for prob 2 years at a minimum
On the otherhand I was incredibly bearish early but now on see the true monopoly they will be if they can get there financially. The thing is the antiquated dealer model was sell cars to a franchise dealer who then makes all the money and the car co profits on service and thats why you see Mercedes doing $140B in sales and $8B net profit. The reality is as long as dealers are in place and electric cars require minimal service tesla will dominate if they can scale bc other car makers cannot compete as long as this is the case thats why you dont see them making a push into electric......even GM with the bolt they're already discounting by $5k I read the other day bc its not selling. The fact of the matter is it takes a shite ton of batteries to make electric cars in a large scale. Tesla's gigafactory will do something like 150 GWH which is more than the entire world production of batteries meanwhile for the bolt, GM could only strike a deal with LG for 3 GWH I believe so they can't even build too many.
Big auto is overlooking electric cars bc they can't do it profitably but so far GM and their attempt, the bolt, has been a disaster while tesla is able to get people to put $1000 down for a car multiple years away, very strong brand like apple. I think I read the electric car has 18 moving parts vs over 2000 in a regular car. Tesla does all the servicing themselves, they're so vertically integrated that lots of regulators don't like it and don't allow them to sell in some states like my own, Texas.
I have alot of shares but its not as much of a home run as you think, they need alot more cash and will dilute us more, but the good news is the higher the shares are, the less they need to dilute. You have to remember the auto market is on the order of like 80m cars/year and tesla just sold 88,000 and most around $100k avg, as prices fall you can imagine more would like to buy one. Right now they're at $145 kwh/hr for batteries, the tipping point is supposedly $100 kwh/hr where electric cars become cheaper than an engine, and with how technology prices go we should be there soon.
The autopilot is good now, but I read they just passed 4 billion miles the other day, so you have to see everyday as more and more data is fed to tesla and they can make a better autopilot update with all that data.
The energy storage business will be bigger than cars Elon said, and who am I to disagree with him, he's been a great CEO so far in his career.
It's definitely super high risk but the reward is there if it all pans out. If you're young: Amazon,Google, Tesla is probably all the diversification you need, those will be the dominant ones of the future.
On the otherhand I was incredibly bearish early but now on see the true monopoly they will be if they can get there financially. The thing is the antiquated dealer model was sell cars to a franchise dealer who then makes all the money and the car co profits on service and thats why you see Mercedes doing $140B in sales and $8B net profit. The reality is as long as dealers are in place and electric cars require minimal service tesla will dominate if they can scale bc other car makers cannot compete as long as this is the case thats why you dont see them making a push into electric......even GM with the bolt they're already discounting by $5k I read the other day bc its not selling. The fact of the matter is it takes a shite ton of batteries to make electric cars in a large scale. Tesla's gigafactory will do something like 150 GWH which is more than the entire world production of batteries meanwhile for the bolt, GM could only strike a deal with LG for 3 GWH I believe so they can't even build too many.
Big auto is overlooking electric cars bc they can't do it profitably but so far GM and their attempt, the bolt, has been a disaster while tesla is able to get people to put $1000 down for a car multiple years away, very strong brand like apple. I think I read the electric car has 18 moving parts vs over 2000 in a regular car. Tesla does all the servicing themselves, they're so vertically integrated that lots of regulators don't like it and don't allow them to sell in some states like my own, Texas.
I have alot of shares but its not as much of a home run as you think, they need alot more cash and will dilute us more, but the good news is the higher the shares are, the less they need to dilute. You have to remember the auto market is on the order of like 80m cars/year and tesla just sold 88,000 and most around $100k avg, as prices fall you can imagine more would like to buy one. Right now they're at $145 kwh/hr for batteries, the tipping point is supposedly $100 kwh/hr where electric cars become cheaper than an engine, and with how technology prices go we should be there soon.
The autopilot is good now, but I read they just passed 4 billion miles the other day, so you have to see everyday as more and more data is fed to tesla and they can make a better autopilot update with all that data.
The energy storage business will be bigger than cars Elon said, and who am I to disagree with him, he's been a great CEO so far in his career.
It's definitely super high risk but the reward is there if it all pans out. If you're young: Amazon,Google, Tesla is probably all the diversification you need, those will be the dominant ones of the future.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:26 am to fareplay
The car itself is an unbelievable piece of futuristic machinery. And I can't imagine Musk and his businesses go under anytime soon.
What gets me is the cost analysis, and adding all the fueling and recharging stations and shite as well as the fact that this is America and we have a long tradition of fricking new technology and products into the ground for the sake of a lobbyists firm for a threatened company
What gets me is the cost analysis, and adding all the fueling and recharging stations and shite as well as the fact that this is America and we have a long tradition of fricking new technology and products into the ground for the sake of a lobbyists firm for a threatened company
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:28 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:37 am to fareplay
Remember...if you are investing into Tesla...you aren't just investing into the car manufacturing. You are also investing in the battery production part of the new gigafactory in conjunction with Panasonic.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:40 am to fareplay
Had my S60D for about 6 months now
Its the best car Ive ever had by a long way. Its like getting into a rocket every morning to go to work. I still enjoy every minute of driving in a way I never had before.
The fact I can kiss goodbye to gas stations and oil changes is icing on the cake.
BTW, I put a tesla wall charger in my garage (~500$, plus couple hundred for an electrician to run a line). A regular NEMA 14-50 will also work (although about 50% slower charge).
Its the best car Ive ever had by a long way. Its like getting into a rocket every morning to go to work. I still enjoy every minute of driving in a way I never had before.
The fact I can kiss goodbye to gas stations and oil changes is icing on the cake.
BTW, I put a tesla wall charger in my garage (~500$, plus couple hundred for an electrician to run a line). A regular NEMA 14-50 will also work (although about 50% slower charge).
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:42 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:15 pm to fareplay
I put my deposit down for the Model 3. I'm completely sold. It's not just saving on gas, it's that these are badass cars that feel like you're driving a spaceship. If all I concerned about was financial sense I'd get a Honda Civic.
That said, you're saving more than gas. You're also saving your time. With a range of 215+ miles, I never have to worry about refueling/re-charging. You wake up every day to a fully charged car. Also, consider maintenance... or lack thereof. There's no engine and something like only 22 moving parts, so kiss most of your maintenance needs/costs goodbye. And if we're talking about no engine, let's talk about safety. You don't have to worry about getting an engine in your lap after a crash. Not to mention these things are solidly built and one of the safest cars around.
Did I mention they're fun AF to drive? It's unlike anything you've been in before. I can't wait for my Model 3; in the meantime I'm stocking up on Tesla stock because the product is far superior to anything else being offered and it will be at an affordable price.
That said, you're saving more than gas. You're also saving your time. With a range of 215+ miles, I never have to worry about refueling/re-charging. You wake up every day to a fully charged car. Also, consider maintenance... or lack thereof. There's no engine and something like only 22 moving parts, so kiss most of your maintenance needs/costs goodbye. And if we're talking about no engine, let's talk about safety. You don't have to worry about getting an engine in your lap after a crash. Not to mention these things are solidly built and one of the safest cars around.
Did I mention they're fun AF to drive? It's unlike anything you've been in before. I can't wait for my Model 3; in the meantime I'm stocking up on Tesla stock because the product is far superior to anything else being offered and it will be at an affordable price.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:55 pm to fareplay
NOOOOOOO!
Battery technology has not yet advanced far enough to make electric cars work from an engineering or efficiency standpoint
Ask your Tesla sales rep :
How long will this batter pack last?
How much will it cost to replace?
What happens to the old battery pack?
And finally,
How much will my electric bill at home be impacted by charging this vehicle.!!!?
Gonna be great when the engineering actually works but not yet.
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