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Ryan Leaf in his own words...
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:51 pm
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Great read. Interesting to hear his perspective on his own addiction and his struggles with sobriety. Glad it seems like he's got his life back on track.
Great read. Interesting to hear his perspective on his own addiction and his struggles with sobriety. Glad it seems like he's got his life back on track.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:06 pm to TigerNavyDoc
Feel like every two years we get an alternating story of either "Ryan's leaf is recovering and coaching and finally at peace with his bust status" or "Ryan leaf arrested after drunkenly smashing a beer bottle over a small child's head and snorting some cocaine right after"
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:24 pm to TigerNavyDoc
I heard the browns invited him to camp.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:25 pm to TigerNavyDoc
NFL should have players like Leaf speak to rookies every year about thing that could go wrong.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:26 pm to TigerNavyDoc
It's good to see that prison can provide positive change in some people's lives. Sometimes you just have to learn the hard way no matter where you're at in life.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:27 pm to wildtigercat93
No doubt the guy is an addict. I wouldn't lend the guy a five dollar bill, but I respect him actually owning his addiction and speaking out about it while trying to better others. That's not to say he won't slip up next week with some outrageous story, but I still thought it was worth a share.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:38 pm to tduecen
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NFL should have players like Leaf speak to rookies every year about thing that could go wrong.
I would be very surprised if they didn't
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:45 pm to TigerNavyDoc
Like so many... This dude had the world at his fingertips and threw it all away.. I hope he can get well and lead A decent life.... He had A gift that most would dream of.... Shame.........
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:45 am to dukke v
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Like so many... This dude had the world at his fingertips and threw it all away.. I hope he can get well and lead A decent life.... He had A gift that most would dream of.... Shame.........
I think he explains very well why that is so common with athletes at that level. You have had no real accountability for your whole life because sports covers it all up. You're emotionally stunted and like a 13 year old kid as an adult.
Then you are at a point where you have the money and power and influence to do whatever you want. There is really nobody at that point that can stop you.
I'm not saying it's right or normal, but it's understandable. You need a strong and moral support system from the start to keep you grounded and accountable. That comes from a combination of parents/upbringing, environment, personality traits, ect.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:47 am to TigerNavyDoc
Watched a documentary on him recently, pretty cool. I always felt bad for the guy even during his self-destruction. He was bullied by the media tbh, they made a fool of him every chance they got.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:49 am to dukke v
quote:At one time this appeared true. But he sucked in the NFL so he really wasn't a superstar after all. I believe his problems were indicative of a fall from grace. He was considered potentially one of the best QB's in the world and within a couple of years he was being laughed at for how bad he was at the pro level.
This dude had the world at his fingertips and threw it all away..
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:01 pm to The Mick
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He was bullied by the media tbh, they made a fool of him every chance they got.
What??
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:18 pm to tduecen
Chris Carter speaks every year bout his battles with drugs & from all accounts, pulls no punches. The former RB from Ohio State who ended up in prison used to speak, too. Problem is, the NFL cann't make rookies listen.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:20 pm to Keltic Tiger
quote:Problem is, Chris Carter is a dumbass He tells the rookies to have a fall guy. Not stay out of trouble, but have a fall guy pimp as homey
Problem is, the NFL cann't make rookies listen.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:47 pm to tduecen
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NFL should have players like Leaf speak to rookies every year about thing that could go wrong.
All their agents give them the talk. But it's hard to relinquish 20 years of culture after a 1 hour motivational speech.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:30 pm to TigerNavyDoc
Sandis Ozolinsh was a known alcoholic who scored over 500 points in the NHL as a defenseman and made all-star games. Makes me wonder how good he really was.
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