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re: Garic: Pats still trying to get Cooks with a 32
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:02 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:02 pm to Lester Earl
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How do you know how BB values Kenny Stills, nitwit? Do I really need to spell out how dumb your argument is?
You don't think we shopped Stills around? Sure sounded like we did.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:03 pm to Lester Earl
If Stills was just as good as Cooks then he would have produced just as good of numbers, bottom line.
Good players put up good numbers. Production doesn't lie. Hell, you even admitted Cooks disappeared but he still managed to put up 1000 and 9 TDs.
How can a WR that has never had 1000 yards be considered just as good as a guy that's put up back to back seasons of that same total?
That's like saying Taylor Gabriel is just as good as Julio Jones. It's laughable.
Good players put up good numbers. Production doesn't lie. Hell, you even admitted Cooks disappeared but he still managed to put up 1000 and 9 TDs.
How can a WR that has never had 1000 yards be considered just as good as a guy that's put up back to back seasons of that same total?
That's like saying Taylor Gabriel is just as good as Julio Jones. It's laughable.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:04 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
How do you know how BB values Kenny Stills, nitwit? Do I really need to spell out how dumb your argument is?
We've done several trades with the Pats in the past, so its safe to assume they were some of the first ones we contacted dumbass.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:07 pm to WicKed WayZ
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That's like saying Taylor Gabriel is just as good as Julio Jones. It's laughable.
I mean Stills averaged 20 ypc and had a 75% catch rate.
Who's to say he wouldn't be BETTER than Julio given more targets
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:10 pm to TigerBait1127
I say we trade for Stills while we can.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:12 pm to NOSHAU
Hypothetical:
say we did this trade, does anyone that has been following the mock drafts think Zach Cunningham could be available at #32???
say we did this trade, does anyone that has been following the mock drafts think Zach Cunningham could be available at #32???
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:14 pm to LooseCannon22282
Get the first rounder for Cooks.
Let's move FORWARD!
Let's move FORWARD!
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:16 pm to Lester Earl
Better hands, runs better routes.
Stills is an OK receiver, his ceiling is nowhere near as high as Cooks.
Stills is an OK receiver, his ceiling is nowhere near as high as Cooks.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:29 pm to WicKed WayZ
Look at Stills 2014. How the frick can you say he didn't produce? 
Go look at the Advancef stats on him from that year. He was one of the highest rated WRs in the league.
Go look at the Advancef stats on him from that year. He was one of the highest rated WRs in the league.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:34 pm to WicKed WayZ
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How can a WR that has never had 1000 yards be considered just as good as a guy that's put up back to back seasons of that same total?
How can a guy that has had a 950 yard season on way less targets be considered as good as a guy that goes for 1100 yards on many more targets? Are you really acting like there is much difference here?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:35 pm to sicboy
Cooks for Garoppolo straight up.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:39 pm to Vlatket
How many 2016 1,000 yard WRs are better than 954 yard Deandre Hopkins? There were 25 of them.
Stats aren't cut and dry.
Stats aren't cut and dry.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:57 pm to GynoSandberg
If Stills was worth a first round pick he would have gotten one.
Cooks is worth a first rounder to a lot of teams. Are we just going to disregard what pro teams think?
Cooks is worth a first rounder to a lot of teams. Are we just going to disregard what pro teams think?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:04 pm to WicKed WayZ
You realize Stills is gonna get fricking paid this offseason, right?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:08 pm to Lester Earl
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You realize Stills is gonna get fricking paid this offseason, right?
Do you think Stills would get anywhere near Cooks on an open market?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:21 pm to TigerBait1127
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Do you think Stills would get anywhere near Cooks on an open market?
ya. There are already rumors he(Stills) could get upward of $12mil per year this offseason. My guess is he ends up around $10mil per. Cooks isnt worth much more than that.
I'll ask you like i asked the other guy, what do you think Cooks does that much better than Stills?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:36 pm to Lester Earl
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There are already rumors he(Stills) wants upward of $12mil per year this offseason.
Fixed that for ya.
Huge difference between wanting something and getting something, especially where the nfl is concerned.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:54 pm to bonethug0108
Tavon austin, Allen hurns, and Randall Cobb $10+ mil per nfl WRs
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:55 pm to bonethug0108
predict his deal for me
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:48 pm to Lester Earl
There is no way I'd trade Cooks for 32. People seem to think his only value is as a trade commodity, but it's no the has value for us as an actual player. Even if he plays the next two years and bounces, people will say we let him go and got nothing for him. No, we'd be getting 2 more seasons' worth of production from him. And considering Brees' age, I value these next 2 years of Cooks' production more than the 32 pick this year.
Assets don't have to be moved to provide value. Cooks is an asset that provides value for the Saints right now. I don't care if he's disgruntled or not. Now, if the Titans offer 18, I'm all in.
Assets don't have to be moved to provide value. Cooks is an asset that provides value for the Saints right now. I don't care if he's disgruntled or not. Now, if the Titans offer 18, I'm all in.
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