re: Women and the hijab

This thread screams "I love Applebees and never want to leave my small shite brick town. Time to post a racist article on my Facebook"

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Because it's part of their culture. Who are you to say their culture is right or wrong?

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You, sir, have fallen into the trap of cultural relativism. I used to be there until I learned that Western civilization is a safer place for 'marginalized' groups to exist. I don't want my beautiful daughter to be exposed to this barbarous misogyny.

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How do hypocritical Democrat shreiking harpies defend their complete silence on this.

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by turning it into a powerful "Choice"

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while ignoring the entire reason why women are pressured into wearing the hijab and the concept of institutional sexism

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This thread screams "I love Applebees and never want to leave my small shite brick town. Time to post a racist article on my Facebook"

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yeah because guys like Osama Bin Laden were from poverty and just jealous of middle class people in the West

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Osama bin laden is an EXCELLENT example of how a member of the aristocracy can get poor people to do their bidding....if it weren't for massive poverty in the middle east he wouldn't have had an army...why did he have to travel to Afghanistan and couldn't have gotten enough folks to form an army in Saudi Arabia??? because poverty isn't as great....


But you misread my statement my friend....I said white nationalists wouldn't be as prevalent if they had secure middle class incomes....you need desperate people anytime you want to build an army outside of a nations army with the purpose of protecting national soveriegnty...if everyone was fat and happy and satisfied in the world there would be no need for any armies...you can't build an army out of middle aged men who are living the good life...you have to get young men who are starting out and don't have a whole lot in their lives just yet....

They still have a choice in the matter whether to advocate their own sexuality. All those babes for trump girls were not forced into doing it.

Islamic women have zero or hardly any choices at all without serious reprocussions.

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They still have a choice in the matter whether to advocate their own sexuality. All those babes for trump girls were not forced into doing it.

Islamic women have zero or hardly any choices at all without serious reprocussions.

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I couldn't agree more and that is why I don't think we shouldn't at least acknowledge how "un-American" this practice is in the United States....we shouldn't simply tolerate it....it is the norm in some cultures just to wail the hell out of a misbehaving young-un....but we don't tolerate it when it gets out of hand and we make the decision on the spur of the moment....

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She wears the hijab because she is Muslim. Her religion requires her to wear it. They do not require men to wear

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yes this is one reason why the "hijab" example is one of my favorites, b/c it involves a complete warping of reality to get to the "gotcha" by progs. they purposefully ignore the actual force/coercion used so that they can spin this into an empowered choice by woman. that simply ignores reality simply so they can yell "gotcha"

second, it shows the deep-seeded hatred of Western culture by the progs. the reason why it's so easy for progs to do the "ignoring reality" bit above is b/c that "choice" is non-Western. their real end-game is attacking Western culture, not supporting a single worldview about any particular issue. so since the hijab is non-Western, the rules they want to apply to Western culture (and the criticisms/examples they seek) do not apply. you can actually combine the 2 points and see that they're supporting this "choice" because the "choice" becomes brave because it creates a different cultural expression in the West

if you ever want to get into this argument with a legit feminist, steer the discussion towards one of those "choice" arguments they hate in the West. the 2 best are the economic impacts of women choosing to have children or, even better, the "college major" choice scenario. when you remove the hijab and discuss that women aren't represented well in some high-paying field b/c they don't seek degrees required of that field, what do you get? they say "well that's b/c of our patriarchal and sexist society that has molded women into making that choice"

then you get a rhetoric boner and you know how to use that to frick their argument

OH shite more "west is evil" arguments

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They fricked up half the planet to a point that they will NEVER catch up.

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so you think sub-Saharan Africa would be more developed today had colonialism never occurred?

do you also purposefully ignore the 2nd colonial era (the Cold War)?

I don't know as much about the 2nd colonial era as I do about the colonization of Africa and the Ottoman Empire. It isn't "west is evil", it's more Europe stole resources from other countries and now they are lagging behind economically. This is not an opinion. This is factual.

If they would be more developed or not isn't really the issue. Europeans destroyed their culture, then pit them against each other by drawing country borders that made absolutely zero sense historically speaking. Did you know why Great Britain created the country of Iraq? They literally picked out the biggest oil deposits and drew a circle around them. That became Iraq. Along with three ethnic groups who HATED each other and ended up killing each other for decades.