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re: Lies told by Trump during last night's State of the Union Address

Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:46 pm to
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Seems to me 170,000 people crossing per year means our borders are wide open. A reduction is beside the point. Trump is right.


Not to mention, the "well, it REALLY sucked 10 years ago" defense isn't really a defense.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35511 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:47 pm to
The snowflakes on this board have to stop anchoring threads that they don't like.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53119 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:49 pm to
I said i wouldn't disprove all of your "factchecking" but what the hell, i have time.

quote:

Trump: We've defended the borders of other nations, while leaving our own borders wide open.."

Fact: Over the last 10 years, we've seen a 90% drop in illegal border crossings as a result of increased enforcement.


Your "fact" does nothing to dispute trump's claims. We have in fact left our borders open, your link even acknowledges the fact that our borders are wide open.

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Trump: "Since my election, Ford, Fiat-Chrysler, General Motors, Sprint, Softbank, Lockheed, Intel, Walmart, and many others, have announced that they will invest billions of dollars in the United States and will create tens of thousands of new American jobs."

Fact: Trump claims that his policies have led these companies to create 70,000 jobs. But 69,000 of those jobs were in the works before election and 700 were the result of Obama's policies.



The specific companies Trump has mentioned did in fact credit Trump and his business friendly policies. Also, i'm assuming you forgot about Obama's "magic wand" comment about how manufacturing just isn't coming back to the US anymore? Well Trump just gave you and your lefties a big middle finger by creating a new manufacturing renaissance here in the US. MAGA

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Trump: "We have cleared the way for the construction of the Keystone and Dakota Access Pipelines -- thereby creating tens of thousands of jobs." The Dakota Access pipeline is nearly built. Keystone would create 3,900 direct construction jobs and 16,000 total jobs on an annual basis.

Fact: And those are just temporary jobs; the permanent job count at Keystone will be 35.


Your fact is complete horseshite and you have nothing to back it up. Your NY Times link (great unbiased source by the way) fails to deliver where those so called permanent jobs are. Regardless, even if true, those temporary jobs will be multi-year and is often the case in the construction industry. I guess your too stupid to know that though, right?

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Trump: We want all Americans to succeed --- but that can't happen in an environment of lawless chaos. We must restore integrity and the rule of law to our borders."

Fact: Guess what happened when Arizona decided to aggressively ‘enforce the immigration laws’? Fewer jobs all around; lower state GDP.


Your "fact" doesn't address anything Trump said. Try again.

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Trump: "According to data provided by the Department of Justice, the vast majority of individuals convicted for terrorism-related offenses since 9/11 came here from outside of our country."

Fact: Right-wing extremists are a bigger threat to America than foreign-born terrorists.


Again, your "facts" do not dispute anything Trump said.

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Trump: "Protecting our workers also means reforming our system of legal immigration. The current, outdated system depresses wages for our poorest workers, and puts great pressure on taxpayers."

Fact: Immigrants don't lower our wages or take our jobs.


Actually they do. Undercutting the minimum wage by paying non-taxed wages to illegals at less than minimum wage rates does further depress minimum wage jobs. It's basic economics.

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Trump: "According to the National Academy of Sciences, our current immigration system costs America's taxpayers many billions of dollars a year."

Fact: “We found little to no negative effects on overall wages and employment of native-born workers in the longer term,” said Francine D. Blau, an economics professor at Cornell University who led the group that produced the 550-page report.


Again, you are "fact checking" a broad statement from Trump with a specific instance regarding employment of native-born workers. You aren't fact checking apples to apples. Hell, just border control alone should give you some insight on how much it costs the taxpayers to patrol our borders. Oh wait, you think border patrol is paid for with magic money?

quote:

Trump: "Obamacare is collapsing..."

Fact: The insurance market is actually improving, but repealing #ACA would kill it


It's collapsing under its own weight. Insurance agencies that provide healthcare have backed out of most states that offer Obamacare. Insurance premiums have skyrocketed. Services have ended. People weren't allowed to keep their doctors or planned by Obama's own admission. in what world is that "improving".
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Trump: "So I am calling on all Democrats and Republicans in the Congress to work with us to save Americans from this imploding Obamacare disaster."

Fact: Obamacare costs less than expected



See above, you are 100% completely full of shite.

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Trump: "The murder rate in 2015 experienced its largest single-year increase in nearly half a century."

Fact: The nation's crime rate ticked up slightly in 2015 compared to the year before, but it still remains at historic lows.


Murder rate does not equal crime rate. Try again, dipshit.
Posted by Humanelement
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1366 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:52 pm to
All your so called facts are based on manipulated, bull shite left wing cuck information put our by left wing dick heads like you all primed to make us all somehow forget where we are as a nation and what the real situation and actual circumstance are for the American people. To believe all your bull shite we, would all be living in Utopia, Obama would still be president, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi wouldn't be pure fukin idiots, we could all name our price for any job we want, 93 million people would not be out of the work force, Islam would be our religion of choice, ISIS would be a division of the Boy Scouts of America, I guess you forgot 9/11 on your terrorist killing accounting, Chicago alone wouldn't be killing 7-10 people a day, 2400 a year, over 20 american policy officers would have been murdered in the streets of the US last year, ( Are you fuk-ing kidding me), Obama care wouldn't have priced health care out of the reach of 50 million middle class families only to provide health care for so called 22 million poorest families, 50% immigrants, and hell Hillary might even be president. It's the kind of shite you posted that is the main reason you cuck's want gain back power for a long, long, long time. Get used to it. Oh and GFY
Posted by GenghisKhan
Gulf Coast
Member since Aug 2016
960 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:02 pm to
FACT: OP is a leftist. Your policies do not work and are morally corrupt. Venezuela needs you and YOUR Money!
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:11 pm to
Damn seldom the truth really does hurt your soul doesn't it?

Melt on Trumptard, melt on
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14543 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Over the last 10 years, we've seen a 90% drop in illegal border crossings as a result of increased enforcement.


Stopped after this. If you think enforcement had more to do with it then a slow down in the economy, you are a hack.

Posted by geauxbears08
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
224 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:13 pm to
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Fact: Right-wing extremists are a bigger threat to America than foreign-born terrorists. Right-wing militants since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time, according to New America, a Washington think tank, Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead.


If you include the last 4 months of 2001, what do those stats look like? Hmmm...
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