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Tillerson and Kelly meet with Peña Nieto today
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:17 pm
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That's the backdrop as Tillerson and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly arrive in Mexico for meetings with Peña Nieto, Mexican ministers and military officials. The trip is meant to allow the new US Cabinet members to establish relationships and coordinate on bilateral issues that range from counterterrorism, border security, immigration and trade that amounts to $1.5 billion a day. But the secretaries make their debut under a cloud.
"Today's rhetoric is forcing Mexicans everywhere to question the unquestionable: Did the country make a mistake 25 years ago by betting its future on North America?" asked Peter Schecter, director of the Adrienne Arsht Latin America Center at the Atlantic Council. "No relationship is perfect, and there is much to develop and improve in Mexico. But by ostracizing our neighbor, we are in imminent danger of dismantling the North American experiment we've built over the last 20-plus years."
In a reflection of how broad the US-Mexico relationship is, Tillerson and Kelly will meet with the Mexican ministers of Interior, Foreign Relations, Finance, National Defense and Navy.
Their trip takes place a day after the Trump administration announced new and aggressive immigration enforcement procedures that could dramatically expand the number of people detained and deported, and directly impact Mexico.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 12:18 pm
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:22 pm to joshnorris14
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"Today's rhetoric is forcing Mexicans everywhere to question the unquestionable: Did the country make a mistake 25 years ago by betting its future on North America?" asked Peter Schecter, director of the Adrienne Arsht Latin America Center at the Atlantic Council
Ummm would they rather be tied to Central/South America?
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"No relationship is perfect, and there is much to develop and improve in Mexico
"Please don't hold a country responsible for it's culture and failures"
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But by ostracizing our neighbor, we are in imminent danger of dismantling the North American experiment we've built over the last 20-plus years."
I think the general trend in Western societies is getting back to self-determinism and not this global utopian "experiment" that has been horrid.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:24 pm to VirgilCaine
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"Please don't hold a country responsible for it's culture and failures"
It really works both ways. See drug war.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:27 pm to joshnorris14
quote:You mean the experiment to subsidize Mexico?
"But by ostracizing our neighbor, we are in imminent danger of dismantling the North American experiment we've built over the last 20-plus years."
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:30 pm to Texas Weazel
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It really works both ways. See drug war.
My point was more to the free reign of drug cartels in Mexico and Central America over the past 50 years.
Immorality certainly abounds in the US, but there's still a reason why people risk life and limb to gain entry here from Mexico.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:30 pm to joshnorris14
Can't Vex the Rex
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:31 pm to VirgilCaine
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My point was more to the free reign of drug cartels in Mexico and Central America over the past 50 years.
Immorality certainly abounds in the US, but there's still a reason why people risk life and limb to gain entry here from Mexico
More to the point, there is overwhelming evidence that our culture is better than there culture . . . and always has been and access to our culture shouldn't be a two way street.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:33 pm to joshnorris14
Now we are going down the chain in terms of negotiating with this hapless buffoon...top flight guys, but not the top guy.
Alpha AF
Alpha AF
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:34 pm to Damone
Can't kill the Till
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:34 pm to joshnorris14
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"Today's rhetoric is forcing Mexicans everywhere to question the unquestionable: Did the country make a mistake 25 years ago by betting its future on North America?"
Shouldn't they have been betting on Mexico?
You know, on themselves?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:39 pm to Lou Pai
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Now we are going down the chain in terms of negotiating with this hapless buffoon...top flight guys, but not the top guy.
The CEO of the largest non-tech company negotiating against someone who can't even stand up to local gangs
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:43 pm to joshnorris14
Right, but this is a classic negotiating tactic. Trump shouldn't even agree to meet with him again in person until they at least agree to pay for the Wall. Until then, if they don't start playing ball NOW, send emissaries of progressively lower rank until eventually you have the likes of Draconian Sanctions sitting across the table from him.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:44 pm to joshnorris14
We're gonna break the Peñieta folks
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:46 pm to joshnorris14
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The CEO of the largest non-tech company negotiating against someone who can't even stand up to local gangs
Tillerson's Russia dealings have certainly given him experience in dealing with thugs and criminals. He operates on a rational "give and take" basis. If Trump doesn't meddle, Rex has a has a chance of resolving some critical issues.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:47 pm to joshnorris14
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Today's rhetoric is forcing Mexicans everywhere to question the unquestionable: Did the country make a mistake 25 years ago by betting its future on North America?
Would they had rather the US held on to Mexico and divided it up into several states after conquering it in the Mexican War in hindsight?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:53 pm to joshnorris14
quote:Sounds like they are there to "mend fences" . . . . so to speak.
Tillerson and Kelly meet with Peña Nieto today
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:52 pm to joshnorris14
Tillerson and Kelly went to pick up the first installment payment for the wall.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 2:53 pm
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