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they just get angry and try to get better at what they've been doing, which obviously isn't working, instead of expanding themselves and finding new areas to reach competency in. girls want to see a guy be good at different stuff and be adventurous and try new things with them so they can both work on it together

Women are attracted to excitement, value, and confidence

It's why they are not attracted to men who try to win women over going the nice guy route. It's boring, its not exciting, it shows the man is not confident in himself, has little options, and risks rejection so he feels his best strategy is to worship the ground she walks on.

Yet, men are told from birth that the way to win over a woman is to be nice, caring, invest heavily in her, worship the ground she walks on, be "there" for her, and emotional.

The worst place you can take a woman on dates early in the process is out for dinner or a movie or something. That's not exciting. Girls just want to have fun. If you want her to be attracted to you, you need to do something that demonstrates your value, demonstrates your confidence, and shows you can have fun. If you have fun she will want to be a part of that. At dinner all you can do is talk(BORING), and that is not attractive. At a movie all you do is sit there and she is paying attention to the screen, not you, and you will be AMOG'ed by the male actors.

Take her to a shooting range, or a mini golf course, or to a paintball park, rock climbing, somewhere where you can have fun, excitement, show off your value and confidence, and there is some element of risk.

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Posted by NIH

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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:42 am to goldennugget

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, and there is some element of risk.

i liked the master of none episode where he took rachel on a two day trip to nashville

it's ballsy but if you can stand someone during traveling it's a great sign

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:46 am to goldennugget

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It's why they are not attracted to men who try to win women over going the nice guy route.

i think personality types matter a great deal here

intelligent, introverted women mesh well with this

most girls that we perceive as high value are not introverts thought, b/c being hot means they're primed early on to be social creatures and they naturally develop into extroverts. that leads to adventure seeking and the need for that stimulus

there ARE, in rare circumstances, pretty introverted girls who don't mesh well with more "alpha" types, BUT nice guys screw it up if they're not confident b/c introverted girls want freedom and an unconfident nice guy will smother them and that doesn't mesh

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The worst place you can take a woman on dates early in the process is out for dinner or a movie or something. That's not exciting. Girls just want to have fun. If you want her to be attracted to you, you need to do something that demonstrates your value, demonstrates your confidence, and shows you can have fun.

yeah. i've tried some non-dinner things that became a disaster and it wasn't a bad thing b/c you can always make a move to somewhere else and laugh about it. being able to laugh about a failure and keep going is better than playing it safe and remaining meek and insecure

that's something that's very hard for intelligent, introverted men to accept. they trend much more anal retentive and appreciate order and if things go south they're not trained to roll with it, which is all you have to do if things go bust early on. if you just get angry or less secure b/c the initial thing went south, you're fricked going forward

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