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Liberals got a good man fired for nothing-IC backtracking on their own leaks

Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:59 pm to

Trump and Pence said they couldn't trust him.

GTFOH.
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:00 am to
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Trump and Pence said they couldn't trust him.


Link?
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 12:04 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39650 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:01 am to
So... can he come back?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:01 am to
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14834 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:01 am to
The lying to Pence was what got him canned. Not the call itself.

You cannot have your National Security Advisor lying to you. That's unforgivable.
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:11 am to
I think this article needs clarification.

quote:

A current U.S. intelligence official tells NPR's Mary Louise Kelly that there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the transcripts of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, although the official noted that doesn't rule out the possibility of illegal actions.


quote:

The intelligence official who has personally seen the transcripts told Mary Louise they contained "no evidence" of criminal wrongdoing, although the official said it can't be definitively ruled out.

The official also said there was "absolutely nothing" in the transcripts that suggests Flynn was acting under instructions "or that the trail leads higher."

"I don't think [Flynn] knew he was doing anything wrong," the official said. "Flynn talked about sanctions, but no specific promises were made
. Flynn was speaking more in general 'maybe we'll take a look at this going forward' terms."


What the article suggests, from this intelligence officer, is that there is not evidence to prosecute him criminally but there may still be some illegal actions having taken place.That there is no evidence this was directed from higher-ups. That no specific promises were made but sanctions were discussed. And that Flynn was not aware this could be seen as wrong.

So in conclusion, this suggests the possibility of illegal actions may have taken place, but maybe not, that there is currently no evidence linking to Trump and that Flynn is probably a bit reckless and incompetent for these actions. For not knowing this would be considered as borderline illegal behavior.

Sounds like if you are a Trump supporter, Trump dodged a bullet by getting this guy out sooner then later. Politically though, this still won't look good since there were obvious signs this guy was not fit for this job in the first place.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 12:23 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:13 am to
We've known this all along. He was shitcanned for lying about it.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36381 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:13 am to

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Politically though, this still won't look good since there were obvious signs this guy was not fit for this job in the first place.



The guy prevented russian retaliation against Obama pettiness before he had even officially been on the job. Sounds like he was perfect for the job
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10145 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:14 am to
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Liberals got a good man fired


No shite. This is their strategy. They will attack everyone around Trump and circle like buzzards until they get something on Trump directly. Will they succeed in taking down Trump? Probably not, but they have to try.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 12:15 am
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:17 am to
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The guy prevented russian retaliation against Obama pettiness before he had even officially been on the job. Sounds like he was perfect for the job



If this could be proven, Flynn would probably be in a lot more trouble.

I think his saving grace right now is that the transcripts and investigation is not showing sound evidence that he offered a specific quid pro quo or promise. So it can not be determined more conclusively that the Russian's pivot of not expelling American ambassadors in retaliation was his influence.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 12:19 am
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:19 am to
This is pathetic...
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:20 am to
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You cannot have your National Security Advisor lying to you

He wasn't the National Security Advisor when he made those calls.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:23 am to
quote:

The guy prevented russian retaliation against Obama pettiness before he had even officially been on the job. Sounds like he was perfect for the job


Sounds like a hero to me.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:24 am to
quote:

He wasn't the National Security Advisor when he made those calls.


NSA is going to have to say if they were monitoring Flynn illegally or the Russian Ambassador?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36381 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:27 am to



Hes a pacifist. Hes used words not bullets to avoid a crisis. Democrats in their blood lust wanted the war machine to spring to life. Flynn destroyed those plans so they took him out

Heres to flynn a great American
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 12:28 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68957 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:28 am to
quote:

He wasn't the National Security Advisor when he made those calls.


He was when he lied.

That article seems to suggest that he could be charged with crimes despite no evidence of crimes. Sounds kind of fricked up, but I guess we'll see.

My bet is he did nothing illegal and this will end up being a dud other than the bad optics of firing a guy one month on the job.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:30 am to
They were monitoring the ambassador. These two facts have been consistent throughout the whole story.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:31 am to
And this guy is going to clean it up



Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56657 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:31 am to
There are a bunch of people in our IC about to lose their job! Trumpnks finished fricking with these cocksuckers. Our government is corrupt as shite on both sides of the aisle and anyone too stupid to see that is a fricking idiot.
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