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The Latest Rundown on the Mike Flynn Deep State Hit Job

Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:48 pm
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The Latest Rundown on the Mike Flynn Deep State Hit Job
BY PATRICK POOLE
FEBRUARY 15, 2017


Obama officials and the establishment media continue to wave the scalp of resigned National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, trying to squeeze every last drop of anti-Trump narrative from the matter.

As I had said privately, Flynn was not long for remaining as NSA. It's not because he's a bad guy, and accusations that he was compromised by Russian intelligence are as absurd as the Trump dossier BuzzFeed published last month. It's just that Flynn wasn't ready for prime time; hopefully his replacement will be.
.....

The other big story last night came from Adam Kredo at the Washington Free Beacon. Kredo writes that the hit job on Flynn was driven by former Obama officials concerned about protecting secrets of the disastrous Iran deal:

A third source who serves as a congressional adviser and was involved in the 2015 fight over the Iran deal told the Free Beacon that the Obama administration feared that Flynn would expose the secret agreements with Iran.
"The Obama administration knew that Flynn was going to release the secret documents around the Iran deal, which would blow up their myth that it was a good deal....

Yet absolutely no evidence has surfaced that anything in Flynn's discussion with the Russian ambassador was illegal.

The heavy breathing by the media about supposed Logan Act violations is totally overwrought, as there has never been a successful Logan Act prosecution in two centuries. But it bears recalling that in 2008 as the Bush administration was trying to negotiate on the Iran nuclear program, those efforts were scuttled by the Obama campaign without any complaint from the media or calls for Logan Act prosecutions.

As our own Michael Ledeen reported here at PJ Media back in 2014:

During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies.
The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah’s rule.....

Another issue coming out of the Flynn affair is the politicization of intelligence. House Intel Committee Chairman Devin Nunes is demanding to know why Flynn's conversations were being wiretapped. As one of the congressional "Big 8," if there were a covert program targeting Flynn, he would be one of the few to know:

“Any intelligence agency cannot listen to Americans’ phone calls,” Nunes told reporters Tuesday night. “If there’s inadvertent collection that you know is overseas there’s a whole process in place for that.”
He explained, “It’s pretty clear that’s not the case, so then they could have been listening to someone else and inadvertently picked up an American. If that happens, there’s a whole process in place to where.....

Here's Eli Lake at Bloomberg:

There is another component to this story as well -- as Trump himself just tweeted. It's very rare that reporters are ever told about government-monitored communications of U.S. citizens, let alone senior U.S. officials. The last story like this to hit Washington was in 2009 when Jeff Stein, then of CQ, reported on intercepted phone calls between a senior Aipac lobbyist and Jane Harman, who at the time was a Democratic member of Congress.
Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do....

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Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:50 pm to
I trust that TRUMP knows what he is doing.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:50 pm to
So are we supposed to believe these unnamed sources? I'm confused on protocol around here when it comes to unnamed sources.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:51 pm to
So when can we expect Trump to release the documents around the Iran deal?
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:51 pm to
Fake news
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:52 pm to
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So are we supposed to believe these unnamed sources? I'm confused on protocol around here when it comes to unnamed sources.


They are entitled to the same credibility as the ones being relied upon to tear down Trump.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:52 pm to
[quote]So what is Obama hiding that a nuclear deal with Iran is classified?

FIFY
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:53 pm to
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So are we supposed to believe these unnamed sources? I'm confused on protocol around here when it comes to unnamed sources.


People believe unnamed sources when they say what people want to hear. Which is why it's so damned dangerous.
Posted by gthog61
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:53 pm to
This isn't going to work for them.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84432 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:53 pm to
Flynn wasn't releasing the documents without Trump's approval anyway, so what's the hold up now?

If it's that explosive then let's see it.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:54 pm to
Where there is smoke......
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:54 pm to
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Here's Eli Lake at Bloomberg:


quote:

If we are to believe the Trump White House, National Security Adviser Michael Flynn just resigned because he lied about his conversations with Russia's ambassador to the vice president. As White House senior counselor Kellyanne Conway told NBC's "Today Show" on Tuesday: "Misleading the vice president really was the key here."

That sounds about as credible as when the president told CIA employees that the media had invented the story about his enmity toward the spy agency, not even two weeks after he had taken to Twitter to compare the CIA to Nazis. It's about as credible as President Donald Trump's insistence that it didn't rain during his inauguration. Or that millions of people had voted illegally in the election he just won.

The point here is that for a White House that has such a casual and opportunistic relationship with the truth, it's strange that Flynn's "lie" to Pence would get him fired. It doesn't add up.

.....

If it was the lie to Pence that sunk Flynn, why was he not fired at the end of January?

A better explanation here is that Flynn was just thrown under the bus. His tenure as national security adviser, the briefest in U.S. history, was rocky from the start. When Flynn was attacked in the media for his ties to Russia, he was not allowed by the White House to defend himself. Over the weekend, he was instructed not to speak to the press when he was in the fight for his political life. His staff was not even allowed to review the transcripts of his call to the Russian ambassador.
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:54 pm to
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This is what police states do....


Few if any Democrats would have a problem with a Democrat-controlled police state, so, the fact that "this is what police states do" is absolutely true, but, not a deterrent to Democrats because hey PREFER police state methods.

They set the dogs onto the civil rights marchers, they put firehoses to the lunch counter protesters, they will use any "police state" methods that the media will allow them to get away with and we know that the media will give them cover for anything, probably even treason.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:54 pm to
While I do believe this was a hit job, I think the motive was more to de-legitimize trump more than it was about Iran deal secrets.

Flynn can expose those any time, and might actually be motivated to do so now after this hit job. So that makes no sense.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:54 pm to
My anonymous sources are better than yours!!!
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Deep State Hit Job


What a joke.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:55 pm to
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PJ Media


I was kind of expecting every third word to be in all caps...
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:57 pm to
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But it bears recalling that in 2008 as the Bush administration was trying to negotiate on the Iran nuclear program, those efforts were scuttled by the Obama campaign without any complaint from the media or calls for Logan Act prosecutions.


Bush 43 in a nutshell. Really shows how gutless and timid he was.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84432 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:57 pm to
It's all they have to latch onto at this point. No way Trump selected an incompetent boob, so it's got to be the liberal media and the Establishment. Same song as it's always been with this crew.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135502 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:58 pm to
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believe these unnamed sources?
Which ones?
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