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re: US education rankings since 1980

Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4981 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:37 pm to
Reason we have shitty teachers is because it doesnt pay and it isnt a sexy job.

if we increased the pay, that may change.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51113 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Reason we have shitty teachers is because it doesnt pay and it isnt a sexy job.


Nope. This is due to frivolous lawsuits and the threat of being labeled a child molester by a random parent who just doesn't like you. It's a real concern for people looking into teaching. We have garbage teachers because the people who go into teaching in those types of environments will not push the children to learn because they know where that will lead.

If we are going to pay more, then we must also remove the defined benefit pension plans and also tenure.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:43 pm to
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Reason we have shitty teachers is because it doesnt pay and it isnt a sexy


This is a bullshite talking point. Teachers make more than the average median household income and do it in 9 months. And they usually have decent benefits and a good retirement.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112793 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Reason we have shitty teachers is because it doesnt pay and it isnt a sexy job.


I read an article in yesterday's NYT about the lack of black teachers in K-12 schools in America. The article could have been a word by word reprint from the same articles from 30 years ago.

The dynamic is the same today as it was then. If you're a black guy with a college degree from a good school and you have the acumen to teach HS English Lit at a good school you could make triple the salary in private sector businesses because they can compete with any school district in America.

This applies to whites in STEM fields but that's more narrow.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53623 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:19 pm to
No it's not. My sister was a teacher. She stopped because there is zero discipline in schools. The students ruled the system.

She taught in 3 states.

Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21396 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:24 pm to
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it isnt a sexy job.


DAFUQ

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:49 pm to
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Reason we have shitty teachers is because it doesnt pay and it isnt a sexy job.

if we increased the pay, that may change.
Our education system is run by sorority sluts and minority women. We need more men as principals and administrators.
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