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Give me a starter course on the Kinks

Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:08 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:08 am
I've always been "aware of" the kinks, but never really gotten into them. Like most people who aren't familiar with a popular band, I'd only really heard the radio songs like You Really Got Me, Lola, etc.

I happened to come across the song Daylight recently (from preservation act 1- 1973) and was blown away. Had such a beatles-like feel to it I was enthralled. I really want to dive in deeper, but the problem is they have 24 albums so I can't just start from the first and work my way up.

So for those who are more familiar, are there any in particular that have the same kind feel as Preservation act that I should check out first? Or is there a year or time period where they kind of came into their own and refined their sound that I can start with?
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:12 am to
Their late 60's stuff is easily their best. The crucial albums are:

Kink Kontroversy
Face to Face
Something Else
Village Green Preservation Society
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:19 am to
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Their late 60's stuff is easily their best. The crucial albums are: Kink Kontroversy Face to Face Something Else Village Green Preservation Society



You have a glaring omission in Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire) , which contains their possible magnum opus in "Shangri-La" **




Eta:
** Waterloo Sunset being the other magnum opus
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:32 am to
Get a compilation like Kink Kronikles.

Listen to:
Autumn Almanac
Sunny Afternoon
Deadend Street
Waterloo Sunset
Victoria
Apeman

Then, tell me what else is good
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:42 am to
I had the same realization about 3 years ago. For me their best albums, hands down, are Village Green Preservation Society, Arthur, and Muswell Hillbillies (in that order). Their pre-Village Green stuff is very much singles-focused, as was common in that early 60s style, with a bunch of filler tracks. And after the mid-70s they had a bizarre shift into cock rock. And for the record Ray Davies is a better songwriter than McCartney and Lennon combined, but that should be pretty obvious to everyone.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:48 am to
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And for the record Ray Davies is a better songwriter than McCartney and Lennon combined, but that should be pretty obvious to everyone.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:58 am to
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Their late 60's stuff is easily their best


I disagree. Their early 70s stuff is the best IMO. Powerman vs Lola is an awesome album. The contenders, Lola, powerman, and apeman are some great songs. From their on, their albums were a little more put together if you ask me.

Late 60s might have produced some of their best tunes though, so I could see why one might say that. Like someone else said, take a look at Kink Kronicles and go to the album of the songs you like best.

The Kinks are a very English band. I recall reading something that they were banned from the US or something, so everything they wrote was very British in theme. Kind of have to adapt to that mindset while listening, like watching a British television show.

They are up there with Beatles and stones with the amount of quality music they put out. Their catalog is required listening if you ask me.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:13 am to
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The Kinks are a very English band. I recall reading something that they were banned from the US or something, so everything they wrote was very British in theme. Kind of have to adapt to that mindset while listening, like watching a British television show.

Supposedly they did something to piss off the Musician's Union (and it must have been bad because they are very hush hush about it), and as a result they were effectively banned from playing in the US starting in the mid-60s. That ban lasted for ten years or so, by which time they had some lineup changes and were past their prime.

But yes, they are very British. If you don't know anything about 20th century British history the entire Arthur album will make zero sense.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:21 am to
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British pop music observers say that Ray and his brother Dave often fought on stage. Their angry antics during the first U.S. tour got them in hot water with the American Federation of Musicians who then barred them from further appearances here until the Kinks apologized.

Ted Dreber, assistant to the President of the American Federation of Musicians, could not find any reference to the Kinks on file. But he did say that, in general, the Anglo-American musician's reciprocity agreement allows either union to withhold permits for a group if they behave badly on stage or fail to show for scheduled performances without good reason.


Loraine Alterman, Rolling Stone Magazine, 12/18/69
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:52 am to
Low Budget was a very good album



Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:03 am to
I always liked Dave's crisp, almost crackly guitar tone. For example: LINK
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86528 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:08 am to
I had completely forgot about Honeymoon Suite.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:23 pm to
Never understood why Picture Book didnt make that album. A perfect song in my book.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:33 pm to
Most of what I could say has already been said (nice to see some Kinks fans around here -- where were you when the Phish bishes were flooding the board?) but I'll add my 2 pence worth anyway.

The Kinks had one of the great album runs from 1966-71. These are all classics:

Face to Face
Something Else
Village Green Preservation Society*
Arthur
Lola
Muswell Hillbillies


*Perhaps my favorite album of all time

At this point Ray went a bit off the rails in his quest to be a glam rock superstar, but if you search you can still find some great songs ("Sitting In My Hotel" from Everybody's In Show Biz, "Sweet Lady Genevieve" from Preservation Act One). For the record I do not care for one of Ray's most famous songs, "Celluloid Heroes" (from EISB).

As someone mentioned, The Kink Kronikles is probably the best compilation/intro. Then the albums from their great period of '66-71.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89650 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Village Green Preservation Society


looks like this is a common theme, I'll definitley amke that a priority.

quote:

he Kink Kronikles


probably start here though. For some raeson it's not listed on their wiki discography, but does show up when I search it by name. Odd.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:13 pm to
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Ray Davies is a better songwriter than McCartney and Lennon combined, but that should be pretty obvious to everyone
This is not a competition

Please, no wagering
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86528 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

probably start here though. For some raeson it's not listed on their wiki discography, but does show up when I search it by name. Odd.

Go to allmusic.com for this kind of stuff.
Posted by Deke
Palm Coast, Florida
Member since Jan 2004
1265 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:15 pm to
The Kinks are and were the most criminally underrated band of all time. At the time on a par with the Beates and Who. Kicked the Stones asses all over the place IMHO. "Face to Face" was their best also IMHO. God Save the Kinks.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89650 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Go to allmusic.com for this kind of stuff.


I saw the allmusic link above, I'll head there thanks.

Just curious why it's not listed though, is this not something they officially released?
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:34 pm to
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You have a glaring omission in Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire) , which contains their possible magnum opus in "Shangri-La" **




Yeah that's my favorite Kinks album.
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