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re: DNC server didn't have antivirus software
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:08 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:08 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
You do know that anti-virus does not prevent all hacks right?
what software prevents it then?
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:15 pm to TuDog
quote:Generally the O/S, server software, and restricting traffic to known ports, IP's, etc where possible.
what software prevents it then?
ETA: By "server software" I mean the application that controls the Web service, email service, file service, etc. There isn't some software suite you can buy off the shelf to prevent hacks.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:15 pm to TuDog
quote:
what software prevents it then?
I don't know if any software prevents it completely in this day and age. Server software can me it much more difficult.
I am still waiting on the link that they did not even have antivirus..
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:18 pm to LSUTANGERINE
There is no way anyone high level should be recieving emails from anyone not on an approved email list. For him to click on a basic phishing email is pathetically amateurish.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:20 pm to C
quote:He was a campaign manager, not some high ranking official.
There is no way anyone high level should be recieving emails from anyone not on an approved email list. For him to click on a basic phishing email is pathetically amateurish.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:21 pm to mmcgrath
quote:The manager of a NATIONAL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IS a high ranking official.
He was a campaign manager, not some high ranking official.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:22 pm to C
quote:
There is no way anyone high level should be recieving emails from anyone not on an approved email list. For him to click on a basic phishing email is pathetically amateurish.
did the government report that is what happened? Or is this just something someone else reported and people ran with it? Link, if you know of it?
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:23 pm to TuDog
quote:
what software prevents it then?
smart network design
firewall
web app firewalls with introspection
proxies
intrusion detection system
collect and analyze syslogs
security analytics like SIEM
smart GPO policies
applocker
security groups and individual admin accounts with just what they need
microsegmentation
training employees about social engineering
finding and closing exploits in software
nessus
encryption of data at rest and in transit
TLS 1.2
obfuscate as much as you can to avoid brute force
to name a few, all more useful than antivirus on backend servers for preventing hacks.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:39 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Yes. It was reported a few weeks back. Podesta was actually suspicious of it but clicked anyways after a colleague supposedly meant to say "don't open it" instead said " do open it".
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:51 pm to TuDog
Is this really a surprise? I mean what is the average age of dem leadership? It's like mid 70's. Those senile old bastards probably don't even know how to turn a computer on much less what anti virus software is.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:53 am to Asgard Device
quote:
I know this is a political board for getting angry and whatnot but I rarely encounter anyone using antivirus on their Microsoft Exchange servers
That's a poor business practice. Where I work, we use both the Titus tool and have the Exchange Server heavily protected. Any attachment not labeled properly or with a questionable source is immediately zapped by the HIPS.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:54 am to Asgard Device
quote:
applocker
Don't forget BitLocker. While I HATE it, it could have prevented the compromise of the VA data when that one laptop was stolen.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:21 am to Asgard Device
That nonchalant attitude went away quick, eh? I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was adding context to the alternative methods for detecting malware in email when the exchange server doesn't have av.
Wasn't this supposedly a phising attack and they gave away secret information? AV wouldn't have mattered at any level.
I may be confusing DNC and Podesta.
Wasn't this supposedly a phising attack and they gave away secret information? AV wouldn't have mattered at any level.
I may be confusing DNC and Podesta.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:57 am to TuDog
John Harwoods collusion with the democraps and Donna Brasile's line of questions for Crooked Hillary to cheat the debates; locked out Podesta's Norton/AOL anti-virus. They are so inanely stupid that an email from a Nigerian most likely caused all those billions from Obama/Crooked's State Dept to go missing. Because... the Nigerian said he wanted to donate to the great Clinton Slush Foundation.
And Crooked Hillary wanted to actually be POTUS. To: continue the Obama foreign and domestic dumpster fires, and full UN globalism. And to slush our entire country and government to it's knees.
And too boot... the MSM was the shake and bake and they halped. It is astounding!
And Crooked Hillary wanted to actually be POTUS. To: continue the Obama foreign and domestic dumpster fires, and full UN globalism. And to slush our entire country and government to it's knees.
And too boot... the MSM was the shake and bake and they halped. It is astounding!
Posted on 1/7/17 at 7:37 am to TuDog
"We're not sure how the pigeons got in, sir"
Posted on 1/7/17 at 7:45 am to TuDog
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This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/7/17 at 7:51 am to Asgard Device
quote:
IT consultant here. I know this is a political board for getting angry and whatnot but I rarely encounter anyone using antivirus on their Microsoft Exchange servers. If they do, Microsoft makes them exempt a lot of directories. Sounds bad to a low level IT professional but it really is common in the industry. The thing is that you wouldnt want your exchange server to be exposed to the DMZ or "normal" parts of our network directly. you proxy al that traffic in through a firewall and use load balancers or NAT. I suspect this is where they fricked up. It's not a computer you use to browse the internet and install random shite on.
Exchange should have One of the integrated products like McAfee Security for Email Servers or Symantec mail security for exchange.
The server itself should still have virus scan and yes you would have to exclude the database files.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:35 am to TuDog
DNC IT person heard saying "I ain't standing in line to get another flu shot cause I use a computer".
Posted on 1/7/17 at 8:46 am to TuDog
This is dumb as shite. My company computer requires two passwords to enter, and they have to be changed every 90 days (which is a royal pain in the arse). Zero access to company files without a VPN. Even my company phone operates on a mobile VPN with persistent connection. Every three days the McAfee software scans the computer and aggressive management by a contracted IT security firm insures the system stays safe. My employer is one of the top ten patent filers in the world every year and they are constantly being attacked.
The DNC not even having antivirus software is nuts.
The DNC not even having antivirus software is nuts.
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