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re: JBE Impact on Oil Recovery

Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5347 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:32 pm to
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f the oil companies are responsible for coastal erosion they deserve to be sued.



The real culprits is the Army Corps of engineers and I guarantee JBE won't do them anything. All these suits against oil companies is just to line the pockets of trial lawyers and their buddies.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 9:36 pm
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:33 pm to
edwards is a lying crook. The idiots that voted for that POS, along with good ol boys like sinkhole angelle, are the reason Louisiana is stuck with that garbage for the next couple of years. The whole political system in Louisiana needs to be purged by way of an enema. Hopefully someone like Jeff Landry can become governor in the near future. For now he will just fight that no good lying bastard, edwards, his whole time occupying the governors mansion. edwards is obama on a smaller scale.
Posted by DirtyMike
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2014
1175 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:36 pm to
It's a little bit of both.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4204 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

He had little to no impact on losing jobs anywhere in La


I know specifically of two large projects lost to Texas due to his appointments inability to guarantee a speedy application review. So, there ya go. I'd guess roughly 140 jobs averaging 56k a year. You're wrong.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4204 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

The real culprits is the Army Corps of engineers and I guarantee JBE won't do them anything


They certainly dont help. Need pressure from above to pick up their feet for sure.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14019 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:24 pm to
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I know specifically of two large projects lost to Texas due to his appointments inability to guarantee a speedy application review. So, there ya go. I'd guess roughly 140 jobs averaging 56k a year. You're wrong.


Hmmmm, you know oil two wells that would be drilled in LA but were instead drilled in TX? Can you elaborate on these projects?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23990 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:24 pm to
Edwards is not responsible for the decline in the oil industry. This is pure propaganda, and it isn't even plausible.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:35 pm to
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you know oil two wells that would be drilled in LA but were instead drilled in TX?


Large projects do not necessarily equate to "oil two wells"....being drilled.

But I'm sure you knew that already. More so you probably have no clue as to what he's talking about. Without the O&G industry Louisiana would eventually die on the vine. Anyone who doesn't believe that probably voted for edwards.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Mudge87
NOLA
Member since Apr 2014
550 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:36 pm to
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You mean the oil companies that complied with state approved and issued permits?


This. It's ridiculous to hold companies liable after the fact when they breached no duty of care and were in compliance with all industry rules at the time. These lawsuits are simply a tax and will scare companies away to Texas and Mississippi.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:50 pm to
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These lawsuits are simply a tax and will scare companies away to Texas and Mississippi.


Sure there's a few smaller rogue companies out there in the O&G industry that don't give a crap but don't think for one minute that the big players don't have environmental impact and safety at the forefront of their business! Service companies will get shown the door if their TRIR is not compliant. The same applies to the big/major players with regards to environmental impact and safety.

Fricktarded libtards like edwards have an agenda and it's called fleecing and filing a frivolous law suit at every turn which only helps their good ol boy dipshit cronies. You can bet your sack that people like that DO NOT have anyone's best interest in mind but their own. They're registered democrats for a reason........and they're all no good bastards!
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:00 pm to
That's a great regurgitation of LABI talking points, but do you have any particulars to share with us?

I'll even give you legacy lawsuits and the recent coastal suits, but can you offer anything else on how and why Louisiana is a judicial hellhole and why our legal climate keeps companies away?
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 11:03 pm
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14352 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 1:42 am to
quote:

I know specifically of two large projects lost to Texas due to his appointments inability to guarantee a speedy application review. So, there ya go. I'd guess roughly 140 jobs averaging 56k a year. You're wrong.
lay a link or two on this "inability to guarantee a speedy app review"
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 1:44 am to
quote:

Louisina is home to one of the worst legal climates in the country and JBE has made it worse going all in on the bull shite Jindal and Buddy Caldwell set condoned. It's a judicial hellhole with rampant lawsuit abuse everywhere
yea, keep perpetuating that myth.

In the meantime, if companies would stop fricking over their workers, they wouldn't need to get sued.

Pretty simple.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263209 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 2:35 am to
quote:

guess my point is that these suits have far less to do with unemployment rates than market prices. Do the suits contribute to unemployment? Possibly, but unlikely
It certainly contributes to Louisianas business climate.
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 2:55 am to
Oil companies spend millions on information campaigns to lead the average Louisianian to think that lawsuits are everywhere, and that the legal climate is a hindrance to the business climate (auto insurance companies do the exact same thing).

The truth is, the oil is here, and it belongs to the citizens of this state. They want free reign to take it out of the ground and make as much money off of it without being accountable to the tax-payer/citizens, OR the workers who take it out.

Thank God there are attorneys who are willing to stand up between the worker and the companies who would just assume frick them and the average Louisianan all for the sake of increasing their profits by a quarter of a point.

That oil doesn't belong to JBE, but it doesn't belong to them, either. It belongs to the people of this state.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 3:34 am to
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Oil companies spend millions on information campaigns to lead the average Louisianian to think that lawsuits are everywhere, and that the legal climate is a hindrance to the business climate



They are everywhere and they are killing jobs and strangling profits. These kind of lawsuits are not what we need happening with the oil crash going on right now as they're making the job market even worse and contributing to brain drain out of Louisiana.

The private sector is what creates and grows jobs, not the government and when you put forth all kinds of regulations, taxes and actually sue them for all kinds of punitive damages, all you're forcing them to do is pass on the cost to the employee and the consumer or just chase them out of the state altogether. And then you have tons of unemployed people on the dole and welfare checks which is exactly what JBE wants.

Those big corporations are just not going to take a fricking that you want to give them without someone else getting fricked hard too.

quote:

The truth is, the oil is here, and it belongs to the citizens of this state. They want free reign to take it out of the ground and make as much money off of it without being accountable to the tax-payer/citizens, OR the workers who take it out.

Thank God there are attorneys who are willing to stand up between the worker and the companies who would just assume frick them and the average Louisianan all for the sake of increasing their profits by a quarter of a point.

That oil doesn't belong to JBE, but it doesn't belong to them, either. It belongs to the people of this state.


Naive idealistic bullshite that ignores reality and economics.

No wonder you voted for JBE despite fraudulently calling yourself a conservative. Can't wait to see you whining when Graves or Landry beats that JBE arse in a couple years.
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 3:53 am to
They want all profits with no accountability. In their world, they would love to outlaw lawyers; they would have free reign over their workers and over the citizens who are entitled to their share of the oil that comes from their state.

There's got to be a balance in the system, that's all.

My lens is just based off of personal experience. I have seen untold numbers of people who bought into the 'lawsuits and liberals are killing us' mentality, only to find they are left holding the bag when the so-called righteous oil companies royally frick them over.

Sad to see their faces when they realize they had been voting their own interests away for years, and now their family is the one who will suffer.

And btw, this myth that lawsuits are out of control in Louisiana is so false it's almost comical anymore. Louisiana District courts are HEAVILY defendant-friendly.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14019 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 6:13 am to
quote:

Large projects do not necessarily equate to "oil two wells"....being drilled.


OK, I'll ask you. What are these two large oilfield projects that suddenly moved to TX because of JBE?

quote:

But I'm sure you knew that already. More so you probably have no clue as to what he's talking about.


I have many years of oilfield experience. It's that experience that made the poster's story sound like BS. I did not vote for JBE, but I'm not going to believe in JBE unicorns just because I supported Vitter
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3790 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 6:30 am to
My God this is silly. Of course the oil industry helped destroy our coast. So did the Corp. Just take a plane ride above the coast if you don't think so. I am not a legal expert so no opinion on suits but it is obvious that there are many culprits in a very sad tale
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 12/22/16 at 7:25 am to
tell me more about punitive damages and when they are allowed. You're getting out of your league here.

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