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What did Darth Vader actually accomplish?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:19 pm
He was frightening, and the Death Star was built, Alderaan destroyed, etc. He brought balance to the force? Another failed Death Star?
After 7 films now, what is his actual legacy? I'm not saying he was a galactic failure - but I'm just wondering what he actual legacy was.
After 7 films now, what is his actual legacy? I'm not saying he was a galactic failure - but I'm just wondering what he actual legacy was.
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:22 pm to AlaTiger
He destroyed the Jedi. He killed the sith lord which brought balance between the light and dark. Which is how the universe is supposed to be.
When he was Anakin, he was light. A great man who brought good to the Galaxy. As Vader, he was a scourge. He encompasses the possibilities of both good an evil.
When he was Anakin, he was light. A great man who brought good to the Galaxy. As Vader, he was a scourge. He encompasses the possibilities of both good an evil.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:24 pm to AlaTiger
Killed then all of course....
Well younglings at least.
Well younglings at least.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:24 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:26 pm to AlaTiger
He built C-3P0.
That's enough.
That's enough.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:26 pm to AlaTiger
Vader was the Emperor's Enforcer more than anything else. He fricked some people up and terrified anyone he came across. He was really not in an admistrative role until Empire. He was the Luca Brasi to his Don Vito, not the Tom Hagen like a lot of people seem to think.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:27 pm to athenslife101
Uh, other than the greatest character int he series and killing the emperor?
Is this for real?
Is this for real?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:29 pm to AlaTiger
Wiped out almost all of the rebellion.
Killed all but one of the old Jedi that were still known.
Oversaw a lot of the emperor's war machine and was the right hand man.
The star wars timeline is crazy though.
1,000 year old Republic, becomes a 25 year empire, then becomes a 30 year old republic, only to be destroyed again.
Those first 1000 years must have been uneventful.
Killed all but one of the old Jedi that were still known.
Oversaw a lot of the emperor's war machine and was the right hand man.
The star wars timeline is crazy though.
1,000 year old Republic, becomes a 25 year empire, then becomes a 30 year old republic, only to be destroyed again.
Those first 1000 years must have been uneventful.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:30 pm to OMLandshark
Tom Hagen would be Grand Moff Tarkin for sure.
Brasi for Vader was right. The top enforcer, when shite isn't going right, send him in to improve moral.
Brasi for Vader was right. The top enforcer, when shite isn't going right, send him in to improve moral.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:34 pm to Napoleon
I mean, there were 13 other grand moffs if I remember correctly. The emperor trusted Tarkin the most (which is why he assigned him to the middle of. O where to build the deathstar) but Vader and the emperor were top dogs and no one came close
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:37 pm to athenslife101
Just like there are multiple 4 star generals and only one joint chief.
Tarkin was in charge of the overseeing all affairs outside of the core worlds, that is a huge undertaking. Vader was over him for sure, but Vader also respected tarkin.
Tarkin was in charge of the overseeing all affairs outside of the core worlds, that is a huge undertaking. Vader was over him for sure, but Vader also respected tarkin.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:40 pm to athenslife101
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but Vader and the emperor were top dogs and no one came close
Vader was accountable to Tarkin. He couldn't just choke him out like he could the others and actually obeyed him. Once Tarkin was dead, he was a rabid dog let off the leash. Vader actually didn't have any admistrative roles unless directly summoned to do such (usually by Tarkin himself). You don't want Vader around unless some heavy shite is going down, since he's clearly not good for troop morale. Vader was always a last resort.
There were people higher on the ladder than Vader (like Tarkin and Thrawn), but he was always effective. The Emperor didn't personally trust Vader worth a shite and knew he'd be the first to kill him given a chance, and rightfully so since he plots to have Luke murder him.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:42 pm to AlaTiger
Darth Vader brought about a return of the Sith to prominence in the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker redeemed himself by bringing balance to the force.
Judging by Kylo Ren's adulation of Vader, the few who knew of Anakin's redemption did not tell anyone else, so Darth Vader's legacy would be that of an ultimate evil that failed against ultimate good.
Judging by Kylo Ren's adulation of Vader, the few who knew of Anakin's redemption did not tell anyone else, so Darth Vader's legacy would be that of an ultimate evil that failed against ultimate good.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:45 pm to Napoleon
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Vader was over him for sure, but Vader also respected tarkin.
I mean, was he? Yes Vader was the Emperor's apprentice, but he wanted Vader to know his place. He also knew that Vader was trying to murder him. Tarkin wasn't trying to do that, so he might have allowed him to have authority over Vader. Sure Tarkin was always cordial with Vader in not "commanding" him and simply "summoning" him, but as Leia said herself that she knew Tarkin was "holding Vader's leash". She probably had a point.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:46 pm to Napoleon
There's more than one joint chief, but only one chairman. I think that's what you meant.
But the chairman is actually a 4 star general. Unless it's a Navy guy, like Mullen.
But the chairman is actually a 4 star general. Unless it's a Navy guy, like Mullen.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:50 pm to blueboy
I don't think Vader actually fits into any sort of heirarchy. He does what he wants and his only obedience is to the emperor. But I do think he does what Tarkin asks because he respects him.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:59 pm to blueboy
yeah, I meant chairman of the joint chiefs. Since that is an actual Field Marshal level position it is odd to me that isn't a five star rank.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:05 pm to OMLandshark
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Vader was accountable to Tarkin.
I think Vader respected him. He told Vader to stop force choking the guy in a new hope and Vader listened.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:09 pm to SEClint
Tarkin was in command but Vader was the muscle. The emperor knows that Vader is too unstable so he prefers the leadership skills of Tarkin.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:10 pm to SEClint
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He built C-3PO
What was the frickin point of having him build C3PO?
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