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re: The Coach Orgeron Vision/Plan
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
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He has never held a position on the offensive side of the ball. Not even as a grad assistant.
Couldn't the same thing be said about Nick Saban?
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:04 am to beauxroux
Lol, I swear to God I showed my brother the first part that said coach os strengths are his Louisiana heritage and his drink came spraying out of his nose . May have been the funniest thing I've ever seen...God, I'm just gonna jump one day,screw it.
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:05 am to beauxroux
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Couldn't the same thing be said about Nick Saban?
I dont think anyone is giving Saban credit for his offenses.
Saban had successfully ran a side of the ball.
Saban was a very successful nfl defensive coordinator under Belichik.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:06 am to Artvandalay18
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Lol, I swear to God I showed my brother the first part that said coach os strengths are his Louisiana heritage and his drink came spraying out of his nose . May have been the funniest thing I've ever seen...God, I'm just gonna jump one day,screw it.
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It's mind blowing brother.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:19 am to timlan2057
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As if he had a choice.
He has the salary he has. It affords the staff to be as it is and to have Canada and Aranda. It is a CEO-style vision/plan. He is not Saban, so don't be delusional that your wish (for such a hire) will change what we have in him. He is who he is, and is flexible and embracing with humility the best way for him to lead LSU to wins. Embrace it if you are a Tiger fan, or sulk like someone who lost an election in irrelevancy. Your points are of no true value, aside from you stroking your ego and making points we all could make, if we also chose to wallow in nothingland. The only thing that matters is giving this approach full support. Or you can continue with your Jill Stein equivalency to show that you are unable to move forward, and value bitching about what could have been more than rallying behind the Tigers and our current reality. Line up and give reality a chance, or go be an Ole Miss fan or something like that.
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:31 am to THECEO
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Line up
frick you. This is a sports message board--not North Korea.
Oh, a CEO with a convicted felon as his gofer.
Or does that hit a little too close to home, "CEO"?
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:35 am to Artvandalay18
The full quote of what the OP said:
Everyone talks about recruiting connections to Louisiana and how rich of an environment Louisiana is. Yet, being from Louisiana hurts a HC who is coaching in Louisiana at the state university and seeking to recruit kids from Louisiana first?
I give up.... you can jump!
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His leverage/strengths are his Louisiana/Cajun heritage, his coaching experiences (DT, HC, etc...), his relationship skills, his recruiting prowess, his strong motivational skillset, and the fact that his players love him.
Everyone talks about recruiting connections to Louisiana and how rich of an environment Louisiana is. Yet, being from Louisiana hurts a HC who is coaching in Louisiana at the state university and seeking to recruit kids from Louisiana first?
I give up.... you can jump!
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:48 am to beauxroux
no one ever said it hurts
don't make up arguments to try and prove your point
don't make up arguments to try and prove your point
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
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The best coaches in cfb are hands on one side of the ball
I agree with this statement. Though I also believe that the majority of head coaches are "manager" type head coaches. Every head coach comes from either of defensive or offensive background, but most are not so elite that the completely handle the offense(Spurrier) or defense(Saban. There just aren't that many tried and true ballside genius football coaches to go around.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:07 am to Stevo
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I agree with this statement. Though I also believe that the majority of head coaches are "manager" type head coaches. Every head coach comes from either of defensive or offensive background, but most are not so elite that the completely handle the offense(Spurrier) or defense(Saban. There just aren't that many tried and true ballside genius football coaches to go around.
Agreed but ever since we hired ed orgeron there has been this notion that great coaches just let their coordinators have autonomy and it couldnt be further from the truth.
Ill be cheering for lsu regardless of the head coach.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:12 am to DmitriKaramazov
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Your entire post was premature celebration.
Your entire post was a lot like premature ejaculation... can't stop it and pathetic as frick
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Let's see how things play out before we indulge in sanctimonious lectures directed at other LSU fans
This genius piece of advice was preceded by seven paragraphs.... SEVEN
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:20 am to Salmon
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no one ever said it hurts
don't make up arguments to try and prove your point
My apologies. Did I not use the correct word? I was simplifying and shortening. However for people like you that have trouble with reading comprehension, let me spell it out. Try to keep up.
Scroll up to see comments mocking and laughing at Coach O's Louisiana heritage as a strength(drink spraying out his brother's nose). In the context posted, that would imply that Louisiana heritage is not a strength. One may even say the opposite of a strength. Still with me? The opposite of a strength is what??? That's right. It's a weakness. A weakness would be something that is detrimental. Detrimental things can hurt (injure, impair). One may even say "hurt" and "detrimental" are synonymous-- they have same meaning or can be used interchangeably. As in, "Salmon's rhetoric is detrimental to LSU." or "Salmon's rhetoric hurts LSU." So, as even you can now understand, I made up nothing. And you sir, have been schooled.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:25 am to beauxroux
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Scroll up to see comments mocking and laughing at Coach O's Louisiana heritage as a strength(drink spraying out his brother's nose). In the context posted, that would imply that Louisiana heritage is not a strength.
Ok....
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One may even say the opposite of a strength. Still with me?
No. His heritage is not a strength or a weakness. It's his heritage and has no bearing on his abilities to coach these kids.
It obviously has some bearing on his abilities as a recruiter but even that I believe is overstated. The previous two coaches have done very well recruiting here. I don't know that Coach O can do appreciably better, so really what net benefit does his heritage bring to LSU football?
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:29 am to beauxroux
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Scroll up to see comments mocking and laughing at Coach O's Louisiana heritage as a strength(drink spraying out his brother's nose). In the context posted, that would imply that Louisiana heritage is not a strength. One may even say the opposite of a strength. Still with me? The opposite of a strength is what??? That's right. It's a weakness. A weakness would be something that is detrimental. Detrimental things can hurt (injure, impair). One may even say "hurt" and "detrimental" are synonymous-- they have same meaning or can be used interchangeably. As in, "Salmon's rhetoric is detrimental to LSU." or "Salmon's rhetoric hurts LSU." So, as even you can now understand, I made up nothing. And you sir, have been schooled.
oh my
your entire "schooling" is based on the fallacy that something must be a strength or a weakness
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:30 am to Goldrush25
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No. His heritage is not a strength or a weakness. It's his heritage and has no bearing on his abilities as a football coach.
As I pointed out above, his heritage (defn: belonging to or having connections with a certain culture) to Louisiana is a strength in terms of recruiting. So I take exception with your comment that it is neither a strength nor a weakness.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:35 am to beauxroux
Miles was bringing in top 5 recruiting classes and he's from Ohio. If O can't bring in top 3 classes consistently then what's his heritage worth?
I think O's heritage as a benefit to recruiting will prove to be negligible. Doesn't really even merit conversation as a legitimate talking point.
I think O's heritage as a benefit to recruiting will prove to be negligible. Doesn't really even merit conversation as a legitimate talking point.
This post was edited on 12/16/16 at 11:36 am
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:36 am to beauxroux
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As I pointed out above, his heritage (defn: belonging to or having connections with a certain culture) to Louisiana is a strength in terms of recruiting.
I just don't think kids really care about this
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:36 am to beauxroux
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I pointed out above, his heritage (defn: belonging to or having connections with a certain culture) to Louisiana is a strength in terms of recruiting
So you think he walks into a recruits house and because he is cajun he already has an advantage?
I hope youre not being serious.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:38 am to Salmon
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just don't think kids really care about this
They dont. Not even a little bit.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:39 am to TheUnderDog
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Good job Derek!
Exactly! We know why you were hired and left the talk show. To take all of the fans wants and desires and get them ready in the "binder" to sell to the university. It's a make the people happy approach. Give them what they want or have been missing. Also known as the "Trump Model"
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