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re: Los Angeles passes "ban the box"- firms now cannot ask about crim record on apps

Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5329 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Wrong. Someone will get the job, someone won't, regardless of laws like this. If a previous criminal now gets a job over another person, that other person is now out of a job. So it's net 0.


Wrong. If you're a felon, then "good" jobs are not afforded to you. Since you can't land a good job, you go back to crime. Crime leads back to prison, which costs us. Fatherless homes, which costs us. And the cycle grows, which costs us. Look at the larger picture.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59259 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:37 pm to
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Wrong. If you're a felon, then "good" jobs are not afforded to you. Since you can't land a good job, you go back to crime. Crime leads back to prison, which costs us. Fatherless homes, which costs us. And the cycle grows, which costs us. Look at the larger picture.


So the obvious choice is for the government to step in and legislate costly, inefficient procedures that increase the monetary and administrative burdens of businesses, right?
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 3:38 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69423 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:38 pm to
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If you're a felon, then "good" jobs are not afforded to you.
If there is one job available, and you have two people seeking it, a previous criminal and someone with no criminal history, then no matter what laws there are, one person will get the job and the salary, and the other will not.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41829 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:39 pm to
Instead of forcing businesses to do anything, they should incentivize hiring of reformed convicts and let businesses choose if they want to take the risk.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9334 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Wrong. If you're a felon, then "good" jobs are not afforded to you. Since you can't land a good job, you go back to crime. Crime leads back to prison, which costs us. Fatherless homes, which costs us. And the cycle grows, which costs us. Look at the larger picture.


Boo fricking hoo. If I ran a business, I wouldn't hire a felon. And I wouldn't want to work next to one. Classic NIMBY mindset you have there. Would you want your kid being taught by a "former" child molester? Would you want your wife working late in the office with a "former" rapist? I'm willing to bet you wouldn't.
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