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re: Hope LSU goes other than Kiffin...

Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:12 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56690 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:12 am to
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so if someone on your inner circle happens to be one of the best in the business you shouldn't hire him?? because you didn't have to look hard enough?



It's not in Orgeron's best interest, nor the program.

Orgeron is under the microscope. He would be much better off if he was able to show that he was able to make an Aranda type hire on his own. If he did that, what would be a legitimate worry about having Orgeron at the helm? If he wants to succeed at LSU, he needs to show signs that he can manage this program and sustain success.

As it is, a significant number of fans at his own school question his ability to successfully manage the program. A significant number worry about where we will be in 2-3 years. Recruits will hear that. His greatest selling point right now, IMO, is that he has the budget and support to have the best coaching staff in the nation. And, if one leaves, he's going to bring in the top guy next. But, he has to show he can do that. So far, his staff is entirely what Miles brought to the program...and presumably his friend.

Plus, Kiffin is not the clear cut greatest OC out there. He's not head and shoulders above everyone else. And, he's probably the coordinator that's most likely to bolt for a job the soonest. Do you think a quality HC with a 1.5M+ budget for OC wouldn't be able to make as good a hire?

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on a side note, do you have a government job?





No. And, not that it matters, but it's highly likely that I'm smarter and more successful than you. If you want to disagree with my opinion, that's great. Have at it. But, pretending that you are superior to me professionally is pathetic and frankly wrong.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:24 am to
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It's not in Orgeron's best interest, nor the program.




How is hiring one of the best offensive coordinator's in college football not in the best interest of the coach or lsu?

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Plus, Kiffin is not the clear cut greatest OC out there. He's not head and shoulders above everyone else.


Please tell me who the clear cust greatest oc out there is. this should be good.
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1856 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:40 am to
how is it highly likely? you know nothing about me other than i posted something that you disagree with. in fact, you not being able to understand what was meant by the government job comment does not bode well for you.

so allow me to walk you through it.
-most (if not all) government positions must go through a set amount of interviews before hiring, regardless of whether or not the best candidate has already been identified
-you said that O needs to conduct a larger, nation-wide search (i'm paraphrasing)rather than hire someone from his "inner circle"
-my initial comment was to point out that, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong from hiring within your "inner circle" if the candidate from the "inner circle" is the best. (if kiffin truly is the best candidate is certainly up for debate, but in the end our opinions of the matter are irrelevant)
-the government job comment was a tongue-in-cheek comment pointing out that what you were advocating was a government style job search.
-it was not an insult of your intelligence

however, that said, i would never dare tell anyone to not be offended, so please feel free to take that and anything else i have written as a personal slight and direct insult of your intelligence, occupation, and manhood.
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