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Johnny Jones LA Recruiting Misses
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:02 pm
Early season update on 3 recent LA high school BB players Jones did not get.
Jacob Evans: soph: Cincinnati: guard: 17.8 ppg: 4.1 rpg: 2.2 apg
Dejon Jarreau: fresh: Umass: guard: 12 ppg: 4.3 rpg: 6 apg
Robert Williams: fresh: tx a&m: fwd: 10.5 ppg: 5.8 rpg: 1.3 apg
It seems like the LSU Tigers could use some of this early production and potential.
Jacob Evans: soph: Cincinnati: guard: 17.8 ppg: 4.1 rpg: 2.2 apg
Dejon Jarreau: fresh: Umass: guard: 12 ppg: 4.3 rpg: 6 apg
Robert Williams: fresh: tx a&m: fwd: 10.5 ppg: 5.8 rpg: 1.3 apg
It seems like the LSU Tigers could use some of this early production and potential.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:03 pm to SCP
He has to send them off to get coached properly. Then they can transfer back in.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:07 pm to SCP
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Dejon Jarreau
We've been over this. He wanted his boy to get a scholly, too. The guy isn't Kobe. Is he a good player? Sure. He's not better than AB or Sampson or Mays...probably not even J Patt if we're being realistic. He's shooting 39%, very good assist numbers, also high TO. He's a volume shooter
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:21 pm to SCP
The year Evans elected to sign with Cincinnati they signed Ben Simmons, Antonio Blakeney, Brandon Sampson, and Craig Victor transferred. Maybe Evans did not want to compete for playing time early, who knows. Youcan only sign so many players, sometimes a player blossoms more than anticipated.
If you want to criticize him for losing in state players then you need to praise him for Jordan Mickey, Blakeny, Simmons, Jalyn Patterson, Reath, Hornsby, and Tim Quarterman. Nice to cherry pick but it swings both ways.
If you want to criticize him for losing in state players then you need to praise him for Jordan Mickey, Blakeny, Simmons, Jalyn Patterson, Reath, Hornsby, and Tim Quarterman. Nice to cherry pick but it swings both ways.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:43 am to tigersbb
Several of the players listed as gets by Johnny are not even from the the past two years. They came earlier. These are Hornsby, Patterson, Mickey, and Quarterman.
Blakeney is a good get, but would probably not have come is not for Simmons. After last year, I believe that Simmons alone was a net negative for team development and Jones career at LSU. Blakeney probably makes up for the Simmons debacle, but barely in my mind. Just go back to all the bad press that LSU and Jones got for the Simmmons handling and sometimes direct slights on Jones. That won't go away in many minds. The Showtime documentary will keep it fresh.
We also don't know yet how the careers will end for both Blakeney and the Evans kid who both started college the same years.
Sampson is a good get, and Jones is lucky that the coach (Lavin at St. John's) decided to leave.
Victor seems to be a decent player, but undersized at power forward. We needed another big man that year instead of Simmons.
The Jefferson kid at a&m probably with more upside than Reath and likely would have better numbers if starting at LSU.
The Jarreau kid seems like his start at UMass, and would add something to our team. Unfortunate that Jenkins is hurt.
I did not go into prior years. Those would show a lot of Jones recruiting misses (players we got versus those we lost).
My focus in the thread is just a small sampling of some LA talent we could've had. I understand we can't get them all, but for various reasons we miss out on a significant number of LA players.
Jones teams are not generally more talented than most of the non SEC power conference teams we play. His recruiting is better than Trent Johnson, but not up to the reputation some people have given him. We lack recruiting depth most years, and one can argue team/player development should be better. We may have the most depth of talent this year, but team is too inexperienced and young (we should have more junior and senior starters in Jones 5th year as HC). This is shown by the erratic effort, lack of rebounding at times, turnovers, variable defense, and standing around on offense. Look at the score closer than it really was blow out to WSU last week. The loss to VCU was maddening to watch.
Jones is an average recruiter in my opinion. Recruiting may be his best attribute as a coach. This doesn't bode well for us making NCAA tournaments.
Blakeney is a good get, but would probably not have come is not for Simmons. After last year, I believe that Simmons alone was a net negative for team development and Jones career at LSU. Blakeney probably makes up for the Simmons debacle, but barely in my mind. Just go back to all the bad press that LSU and Jones got for the Simmmons handling and sometimes direct slights on Jones. That won't go away in many minds. The Showtime documentary will keep it fresh.
We also don't know yet how the careers will end for both Blakeney and the Evans kid who both started college the same years.
Sampson is a good get, and Jones is lucky that the coach (Lavin at St. John's) decided to leave.
Victor seems to be a decent player, but undersized at power forward. We needed another big man that year instead of Simmons.
The Jefferson kid at a&m probably with more upside than Reath and likely would have better numbers if starting at LSU.
The Jarreau kid seems like his start at UMass, and would add something to our team. Unfortunate that Jenkins is hurt.
I did not go into prior years. Those would show a lot of Jones recruiting misses (players we got versus those we lost).
My focus in the thread is just a small sampling of some LA talent we could've had. I understand we can't get them all, but for various reasons we miss out on a significant number of LA players.
Jones teams are not generally more talented than most of the non SEC power conference teams we play. His recruiting is better than Trent Johnson, but not up to the reputation some people have given him. We lack recruiting depth most years, and one can argue team/player development should be better. We may have the most depth of talent this year, but team is too inexperienced and young (we should have more junior and senior starters in Jones 5th year as HC). This is shown by the erratic effort, lack of rebounding at times, turnovers, variable defense, and standing around on offense. Look at the score closer than it really was blow out to WSU last week. The loss to VCU was maddening to watch.
Jones is an average recruiter in my opinion. Recruiting may be his best attribute as a coach. This doesn't bode well for us making NCAA tournaments.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:33 am to SCP
IF LSU was able to recruit Louisiana better (a la football) ... they would be a perennial Top 25 team.
Proof: LINK
Louisiana is in the Top 10 in NBA players active.
Also... All time NBA/ABA, Louisiana is 11th.
LINK
Just, for a moment, let that sit in with how bad LSU has been historically with the comparison to football.
There is no reason LSU shouldn't be top 25 year in and year out.
Proof: LINK
Louisiana is in the Top 10 in NBA players active.
Also... All time NBA/ABA, Louisiana is 11th.
LINK
Just, for a moment, let that sit in with how bad LSU has been historically with the comparison to football.
There is no reason LSU shouldn't be top 25 year in and year out.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:36 am to The Boat
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Anymore.
Burn it all down.
fans like you are why the AD will never invest in the program
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:44 am to Coach D
quote:LSU football has historically not been very good until recently
Just, for a moment, let that sit in with how bad LSU has been historically with the comparison to football.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:57 am to Machine
quote:
fans like you are why the AD will never invest in the program
Actually, fans like him are why the AD needs to invest in the program. Every team has fair weather fans. They are the critical get, and they can't be gotten with a shitty program with no consistent direction.
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