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re: There was no shooter at OSU
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:04 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:04 pm to FooManChoo
so they say they killed the suspect but haven't released his name. I wonder why this could be
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:04 pm to Scruffy
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That is actually the worst outcome for those of you who oppose citizens' rights to defend themselves.
That is NOT what the second Amendment is about.
The 2nd Amendment is for us to protect ourselves from the Federal Government.
It is one of the major accomplishments of the Left to actually get people to think it is about self protection.
This is why they now frame their argument as to "why does anyone need an Assault Rifle" for personal defense?
Both are incorrect views.
Again...
We have a 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves from an overreaching tyrannical Federal Government.
Self defense is ancillary to the fundamental right.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:06 pm to Loserman
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Self defense is ancillary to the fundamental right.
I would argue it's more corollary than ancillary.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:07 pm to Strannix
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There was no shooter at OSU
It was a car attack and mass stabbing
I think active shooter is kind of a generic term.
They aren't going to broadcast an active stabber.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:08 pm to Loserman
You are right. The founders understood the ability to defend ones' life and liberty from individuals as a given. Their focus was on the right to also defend those things from a tyrannical government, which is why the 2A was written in the first place, as an additional (some would argue the primary) check on government overreach.
The right to individual self defense shouldn't even be a talking point; it should be accepted by everyone. Firearms are needed by citizens to keep the government from stepping on their throats.
The right to individual self defense shouldn't even be a talking point; it should be accepted by everyone. Firearms are needed by citizens to keep the government from stepping on their throats.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:09 pm to heartbreakTiger
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so they say they killed the suspect but haven't released his name. I wonder why this could be
Because his name is Mohammed Ahmed abdul Jabar.
He was a good baw and had just left mosque and was going to class to become a medical doctor/physicist.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:10 pm to russellvillehog
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Because his name is Mohammed Ahmed abdul Jabar.
Again, if this is the case, what purpose does the delay serve and how is it coordinated?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Everytime it's a Muslim it takes days to get the name.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:18 pm to Y.A. Tittle
what was the purpose of scrubbing the transcripts of the gay club shooting in Orlando? the left loves to scrub the record when its one of their friends, which is almost always the case.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:20 pm to heartbreakTiger
Saying it's a somolian refugee
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:21 pm to NIH
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Common sense car regulation
If it only saves 1 life we must do it.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:23 pm to olddawg26
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Saying it's a somolian refugee
They are usually Muslim as well.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:11 pm to Cadello
I reported that off the news. I didn't make it up. Blame the media.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:52 pm to Loserman
quote:Self-protection includes "protection from the government". That is implied.
It is one of the major accomplishments of the Left to actually get people to think it is about self protection.
This is why they now frame their argument as to "why does anyone need an Assault Rifle" for personal defense?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:55 pm to Scruffy
they are still reporting a potential active shooter on their campus.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:01 pm to russellvillehog
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They are usually Muslim as well.
Abdul Razak Ali Artan
Story I just read said he was upset with OSU for lack of muslim prayer rooms.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:02 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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Story I just read said he was upset with OSU for lack of muslim prayer rooms.
It's kind of amazing that OSU didn't have them.
ETA: OSU did indeed have a designated prayer room in the Student Union.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:03 pm to the808bass
Prayer room? Don't those guys carry around rugs so they can get down wherever they are?
Also, I think any bathroom would be an appropriate place for them to pray. They can get down over a toilet if they'd like. Others will think they are just hungover.
Also, I think any bathroom would be an appropriate place for them to pray. They can get down over a toilet if they'd like. Others will think they are just hungover.
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