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re: Active shooter at Ohio State - at least 8 injured so far
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:51 am to biggsc
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:51 am to biggsc
Agree wholeheartedly... even if it meant a much more strenuous licensure and training... even periodic active shooter training... but the blanket ban is just absurd
One of the friends straight up tells the teachers before he does and is like look, if you have a problem with it I'll leave it in my truck, but in almost every case they're like no, bring it
Perks of being at a Mississippi university I guess
One of the friends straight up tells the teachers before he does and is like look, if you have a problem with it I'll leave it in my truck, but in almost every case they're like no, bring it
Perks of being at a Mississippi university I guess
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:53 am to WhistlinDixie15
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Agree wholeheartedly... even if it meant a much more strenuous licensure and training... even periodic active shooter training... but the blanket ban is just absurd
One of the friends straight up tells the teachers before he does and is like look, if you have a problem with it I'll leave it in my truck, but in almost every case they're like no, bring it
Perks of being at a Mississippi university I guess
The student would go through training to receive a carry license by campus police and stay in contact with them.
Should be allowed also to carry a bowie knife or tomahawk
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:55 am to biggsc
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If only some professor or student had a firearm at Virginia Tech
This x1000
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:56 am to conservativewifeymom
Drudge headlining that it was a machete attack.
BAN MACHETE'S AND ALL KNIVES NOW!!!
CNN will report it was a tired ole baw needing a job in workplace violence if his name is Mohammed.
Has TOTUS called for a knife ban yet?
BAN MACHETE'S AND ALL KNIVES NOW!!!
CNN will report it was a tired ole baw needing a job in workplace violence if his name is Mohammed.
Has TOTUS called for a knife ban yet?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:57 am to conservativewifeymom
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Active shooter at Ohio State - at least 8 injured so far
Not good, not good at all.
Prayers sent
Gun control
round #3207 about to beginPosted on 11/28/16 at 10:57 am to MrCarton
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:59 am to Lsuchs
I see you're one of those individuals who thinks cops are omnipresent and can teleport to areas of violence. Students should most definitely fight back.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:00 am to Old Sarge
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This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:02 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:03 am to cajunangelle
What does the one that got killed look like?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:03 am to Lsuchs
quote:People like you need to learn one FACT:
If you are a campus cop with a weapon waiting for backup outside of a building where shots are being fired you need to face jail time. Students aren't armed, and aren't being paid to be an armed guard. Get your arse and your pistol to the scene.
The police are not legally obligated to help you.
quote:Learn the rulings.
Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of Appeals case that held that the police do not owe a specific duty to provide police services to citizens based on the public duty doctrine.
It is important for you to protect yourself, because no one is obligated to protect you.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:20 am to cajunangelle
Why couldn't a truck with a steel bumper be used to deal with the attackers?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:26 am to cajunangelle
Welp, they're not white. So, according to the media this will look like an "isolated incident." A couple of "lone wolves". Nothing to see here. Move along, meow.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:35 am to Blob Fish
Apparently, only a car and knife/machete was used.
The gunshots heard were from police.
The gunshots heard were from police.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:37 am to The Pirate King
Ban knives in the cafeteria. It inspires violence.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:09 pm to Blob Fish
quote:
I see you're one of those individuals who thinks cops are omnipresent and can teleport to areas of violence. Students should most definitely fight back
if there is an active shooter police are close enough to lay rounds on him within minutes. Students initially involved should absolutely fight back for the lives. No student should have time to read a tweet and really on its advice rather than an armed officer that was within half a mile of where the shooting started.
A shooter hiding after the fact is is a different story.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:12 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Again, police have no obligation to help you.
if there is an active shooter police are close enough to lay rounds on him within minutes.
That is a fact backed by legal rulings.
You have to help yourself.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:22 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
1. This is a classic example of why individuals (not just on campus) need to bear arms. The police can't prevent this and they can't get there fast enough to end it before the bodies start piling up.
I agree
quote:
Even if they could get there in one minute, that's a long time for someone with a gun to kill a lot of unarmed people. It's the reason why the saying exists, "when seconds count, the police are minutes away"
My post was in regards to students affected after enough time for a tweet to be sent and read. Obviously within the first minute or two you are on your own and fighting for you life is self explanatory.
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A lot of campuses are huge, and without an army of officers placed every 50 yards, they can get spread thin.
50 yards is not necessary for a 1-2 minute response time. Cops are easily every half mile. That's less than 1000 yards in your police cruiser. When shots are fired you get your arse in gear
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2. Facing jail time for waiting for backup? How does the campus cop know how many shooters there are, if there are hostages, or if he's going to endanger more people by running in, guns blazing, without being able to properly assess the situation? He could put himself in danger, as well. The SCOTUS has said that police officers have no duty to protect anyone; they are law-enforcement officers who are charged with enforcing the law, not being Superman. They have their own lives to worry about, too. Sounds pretty selfish, but you also don't want more lives (officers) lost due to careless bravado. We shouldn't have officers worrying about the choice of suicide or jail time
I don't think they should really face jail time. That was an initial emotional exaggeration in my post. If I'm the parent of a student unable to carry a firearm by law, and if a law enforcement officer is hessitant going in to defend the students I would be pretty upset, if not hostile towards said officer.
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3. The students shouldn't resort to throwing chairs at a shooter. They should be able to carry firearms safely on their persons in case they are needed. No one should have to rely on anyone else for their own safety
I agree with you here as well. What I'm saying is shame on the human being being paid to defend those unable by law to defend themselves who gets cold feet and leaves kids having to resort to something like throwing chairs in desperation to survive
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:25 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Again, police have no obligation to help you.
That is a fact backed by legal rulings.
You have to help yourself
Cool scruffy. I'm calling out any law enforcement official that wouldn't.
I think most certainly would
That may not even be the issue in this case at all. Shooter could have gone in to hiding after initial attack
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:27 pm to Lsuchs
Thought they swore an oath to protect?
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