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re: Boykin Spaniel Breeders
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:21 pm to LumbermanRon
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:21 pm to LumbermanRon
Got mine in '05 in Houston, I think it was the place w Trace in the name.
Got her as a house pet, but she has hunted every living thing inside and outside. All the moles now live in my neighbors yards, and I know when any living thing moves on my side of the neighborhood.
Got her as a house pet, but she has hunted every living thing inside and outside. All the moles now live in my neighbors yards, and I know when any living thing moves on my side of the neighborhood.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 5:27 pm to PinevilleTiger
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buy your pup in South Carolina from a member of the Boykin family
You don't have to go to South Carolina to buy from the Boykin family. Nancy Boykin lives in Sewanee Tn where she runs Hunters Rest Boykin Spaniels.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 11/23/16 at 7:54 pm to choupiquesushi
What are the pro's/con's as you see them with the Boykin vs labs? I love blm's but a Boykin is about the only other retriever I think I'd consider. Just never been around them so I don't know what I don't know. My current blm is basically a house pet, but he's getting older and I want another duck dog in the next 3-4 yrs as my boys get old enough to start chasing ducks with me.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:42 pm to BLM
A Boykin is pretty thin coated compared to a lab. If you hunt a lot in freezing temps probably would not want to go with a Boykin. They also get worn down pretty quick try to bring in big Canada's. The pros in my opinion is the small size in the house or hunting out of a boat. They also handle the heat really well in the dove field.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:56 pm to highcotton2
Mine has handled everything la has dished out in the last 3 seasons, bout 40 hunts a season.
Has not been worn down once. So far this year he is at 94 ducks -
Vest goes a long way.
We hunt timber salt marsh and fresh marsh
Has not been worn down once. So far this year he is at 94 ducks -
Vest goes a long way.
We hunt timber salt marsh and fresh marsh
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:02 pm to choupiquesushi
Blm con is a lot of "pro" trainers are cookie cutter types - don't send a spaniel to them.
They mature slower than some retriever breeds.
Loooong open water swims are a little slower.
Like chess idea any change to a routine they are used to May require a little coaxing .
Other than that the pros have been listed
Much like a chessie they will ignore commands from someone they don't know - which i like.
There are aome well bred ones around here - they just go quick
They mature slower than some retriever breeds.
Loooong open water swims are a little slower.
Like chess idea any change to a routine they are used to May require a little coaxing .
Other than that the pros have been listed
Much like a chessie they will ignore commands from someone they don't know - which i like.
There are aome well bred ones around here - they just go quick
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:03 pm to LumbermanRon
Why not a cocker spaniel
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:06 pm to Cracker
Whole different animal
Not bred for hunting anymore anyhow
Boykins were created in pretty much exactly what we deal with in south la
Not bred for hunting anymore anyhow
Boykins were created in pretty much exactly what we deal with in south la
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:21 pm to choupiquesushi
Why not an English Springer
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:56 am to choupiquesushi
How are Boykins with shedding? Our lab sleeps inside and it's a task keeping the hair cleaned up.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:29 am to BLM
Variable. Mine sheds a lot if not groomed regularly.
We haven't had a lot of good hunts but mine picked up 50+ in 4 hunts during teal season.
We haven't had a lot of good hunts but mine picked up 50+ in 4 hunts during teal season.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:15 am to Cracker
Cracker boykins are calmer than springers, more suited to versatility.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:18 pm to choupiquesushi
I went to a friends house the other day and he has a Brittany Spaniel. When I walked in his Brittany ran full speed around the island in his kitchen for three laps then leaped up the wall fell back on his back jumped up and ran downstairs full speed. I looked at my buddy and he just said "yea he gets excited sometimes".
Getting a dog is really a crapshoot. When you shoot a 12 it sucks.
Getting a dog is really a crapshoot. When you shoot a 12 it sucks.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:05 am to highcotton2
courtesy of the boykin spaniel society
The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900's to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp. Hunters on South Carolina's Wateree River needed a small rugged dog compactly built for boat travel and able to retrieve on land and water. In those days wagons, wooden boats and trains afforded hunters access to the game rich corridors along the river. But boat travel limited what hunters could carry. The typical heavyweight retriever was a drawback in a craft already loaded with men, guns, provisions and other gear.
On the Wateree River in the early part of this century hunters often used a take apart "section boat." Held together by bolts to form a large craft, the three sections with seats removed could be "nested" to fit neatly into a wagon or train's baggage car. Hunters also used sections as one-man boats just large enough for one person and a compact retriever.
L. W. "Whit" Boykin (1861-1932), a planter, land appraiser and well-known sportsman of the Boykin community just outside Camden, South Carolina, along with his kinsmen the Canteys, experimented with many breeds to resolve the problems posed by their Wateree hunting trips. With selective breeding and a little luck, Boykin developed a small multipurpose retriever now known as the Boykin spaniel.
The first Boykin spaniel, or the precursor of today's breed, was reportedly a small, stray spaniel type dog that befriended a banker walking from his home to the First Presbyterian Church in Spartanburg, South Carolina around 1905-1910. Alexander L. White (1860-1942) liked the little dog and took it home. After the dog showed some aptitude for retrieving, White sent the dog called "Dumpy" to his longtime friend and hunting partner Whit Boykin. In Boykin's hands the little stray developed into a superb turkey dog and waterfowl retriever. This dog became the foundation stock for the Boykin spaniel. Other ancestors are reported to be the Chesapeake Bay retriever, springer spaniel, cocker spaniel, and the American water spaniel.
Today this little brown retriever can be found on hunts and in homes across America. Stamina in hot weather and eagerness to please make this dog a favorite in the dove fields, but Boykins have retained their spaniel flushing abilities and readily adapt to a variety of upland game hunting including pheasant, quail and grouse. An aptitude for water retrieving combined with their compact size assures these dogs a place in the duck boats and blinds as well. Boykins have often been described as "the dog that doesn't rock the boat." They are even effective in deer driving or in tracking wounded deer. Like many of the sporting breeds, Boykin spaniels make the transition from hunting companion to family pet easily. Boykin spaniels are true dual-purpose hunting dogs.
The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900's to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp. Hunters on South Carolina's Wateree River needed a small rugged dog compactly built for boat travel and able to retrieve on land and water. In those days wagons, wooden boats and trains afforded hunters access to the game rich corridors along the river. But boat travel limited what hunters could carry. The typical heavyweight retriever was a drawback in a craft already loaded with men, guns, provisions and other gear.
On the Wateree River in the early part of this century hunters often used a take apart "section boat." Held together by bolts to form a large craft, the three sections with seats removed could be "nested" to fit neatly into a wagon or train's baggage car. Hunters also used sections as one-man boats just large enough for one person and a compact retriever.
L. W. "Whit" Boykin (1861-1932), a planter, land appraiser and well-known sportsman of the Boykin community just outside Camden, South Carolina, along with his kinsmen the Canteys, experimented with many breeds to resolve the problems posed by their Wateree hunting trips. With selective breeding and a little luck, Boykin developed a small multipurpose retriever now known as the Boykin spaniel.
The first Boykin spaniel, or the precursor of today's breed, was reportedly a small, stray spaniel type dog that befriended a banker walking from his home to the First Presbyterian Church in Spartanburg, South Carolina around 1905-1910. Alexander L. White (1860-1942) liked the little dog and took it home. After the dog showed some aptitude for retrieving, White sent the dog called "Dumpy" to his longtime friend and hunting partner Whit Boykin. In Boykin's hands the little stray developed into a superb turkey dog and waterfowl retriever. This dog became the foundation stock for the Boykin spaniel. Other ancestors are reported to be the Chesapeake Bay retriever, springer spaniel, cocker spaniel, and the American water spaniel.
Today this little brown retriever can be found on hunts and in homes across America. Stamina in hot weather and eagerness to please make this dog a favorite in the dove fields, but Boykins have retained their spaniel flushing abilities and readily adapt to a variety of upland game hunting including pheasant, quail and grouse. An aptitude for water retrieving combined with their compact size assures these dogs a place in the duck boats and blinds as well. Boykins have often been described as "the dog that doesn't rock the boat." They are even effective in deer driving or in tracking wounded deer. Like many of the sporting breeds, Boykin spaniels make the transition from hunting companion to family pet easily. Boykin spaniels are true dual-purpose hunting dogs.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 8:49 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:14 pm to LumbermanRon
Are Boykins good dogs to run/jog with?
I know Brittany Spaniels are great when it comes to this, but i cant seem to find anything on Boykins.
I know Brittany Spaniels are great when it comes to this, but i cant seem to find anything on Boykins.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:16 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
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I know Brittany Spaniels are great when it comes to this, but i cant seem to find anything on Boykins.
The only Boykin I have been around is Sushi's and I don't think it would want to keep up running for long distances. His legs were on the shorter side, but I could be wrong...
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:02 am to wickowick
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I know Brittany Spaniels are great when it comes to this, but i cant seem to find anything on Boykins.
The only Boykin I have been around is Sushi's and I don't think it would want to keep up running for long distances. His legs were on the shorter side, but I could be wrong...
they can run more than a person.......even an athlete...
also if anyone is looking for pups - I am aware of a couple of litters on the ground now..
also breeding mine in GA later in the spring..
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:09 am to choupiquesushi
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they can run more than a person.......even an athlete
Good to know.
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also if anyone is looking for pups - I am aware of a couple of litters on the ground now..
Unfortunately still living that college apartment life so I don't think i'd be able to morally get a dog and feel good about it without having a yard for it. Maybe in a year or 2 though.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 10:11 am to BlackCoffeeKid
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Unfortunately still living that college apartment life so I don't think i'd be able to morally get a dog and feel good about it without having a yard for it. Maybe in a year or 2 though.
Will breed mine a couple of times over the next few years.
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