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Let's Talk about prohibition on a local level-Gulf Shores Style
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:51 pm
Gulf Shores to Ban Alcohol on Beaches During Spring Break
Myself along with local business owners have been waiting for a hearing on this for five months now. Many businesses are afraid to speak up due to permits and licenses and contracts that may not be renewed. Do the gov't have power to ban alcohol during specific periods of time, while allowing it during others? Is this profiling college students? What about the businesses that will be effected during the drop of revenue (Lots of businesses around here stay open during the winter where they lose money, make that money back during Spring Break, then make profits in the summer).
What say the poliboard gurus about this?
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On Monday, a host of hoteliers, vacation rental officials, coastal residents and Police Chief Ed Delmore encouraged the council to move ahead with a ban of alcohol on the city's beaches during the break. City officials appear ready to move ahead with it. "This is not an action against college students nor is it against responsible drinking on our beach or our community," Councilman Philip Harris said. "It's a response to the behavioral problem and those of large groups and masses promoting activity that is problematic on our beach." Said Gulf Shores Mayor Robert Craft: "I strongly feel the action we took last year was important. I didn't see anything out there that was family-focused. It was flash mob mentality."
Myself along with local business owners have been waiting for a hearing on this for five months now. Many businesses are afraid to speak up due to permits and licenses and contracts that may not be renewed. Do the gov't have power to ban alcohol during specific periods of time, while allowing it during others? Is this profiling college students? What about the businesses that will be effected during the drop of revenue (Lots of businesses around here stay open during the winter where they lose money, make that money back during Spring Break, then make profits in the summer).
What say the poliboard gurus about this?
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:52 pm to BamaCoaster
GS can say good bye to Spring Break then
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:52 pm to BamaCoaster
Vote his arse out if you dont like it. Craft is a douche.
Orange Beach thanks you.
Orange Beach thanks you.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:54 pm to BamaCoaster
Most low tier PCB owners hated it.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:55 pm to BamaCoaster
Didn't Ft. Lauderdale do this years ago?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:57 pm to Tiguar
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Orange Beach thanks you.
Don't fool yourself. If Orange Beach gets the PCB or GS run-over, they will implement this with the quickness.
Here's a larger question:
Does gov't have the power to influence tourism with a targeted ban during times when certain demographics visit, and do they owe anything to the local businesses who's policies it negatively effects?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:58 pm to BamaCoaster
They wont. Tony kennon has even gone as far as telling the obpd to go light on the DUIs because it hurts local bars.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:59 pm to BamaCoaster
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Do the gov't have power to ban alcohol during specific periods of time, while allowing it during others?
Yes. Folly Beach SC banned alcohol on the beach during the peak season, but deemed it ok during the off season.
It was met with overwhelming enthusiasm from local homeowners and businesses but protested and derided by "tourist".
Ban happened in 2012
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:00 pm to BamaCoaster
It is a lawful police power of local government. As long as it is uniformly enforced there is no issue.
This is one of those, elections have consequences issues. I would be interested in the economic impact on the area.
Personally I think this is lazy and over reactive local government. The "we have to do something" mentality is one of my pet peeves.
This is one of those, elections have consequences issues. I would be interested in the economic impact on the area.
Personally I think this is lazy and over reactive local government. The "we have to do something" mentality is one of my pet peeves.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:01 pm to BamaCoaster
It sounds like Gulf Shores does not need or want the economic impact of Spring Break. It is certainly the city councils prerogative but they better be taking action for the good of the city and not just a few people who are annoyed with the spring breakers.
I would imagine the next election will prove whether or not the citizens agree with the councils decision.
I would imagine the next election will prove whether or not the citizens agree with the councils decision.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:02 pm to Wtodd
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GS can say good bye to Spring Break then
This was the common cry from the Folly Beach alcohol ban detractors as well.
It did not have a negative affect on business nor on tourism.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:03 pm to BamaCoaster
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Do the gov't have power to ban alcohol during specific periods of time, while allowing it during others?
In the name of public safety, yes.
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Is this profiling college students?
Yes. Generally speaking they are immature and irresponsible alcohol consumers. They have proven this fact by their actions.
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What about the businesses that will be effected during the drop of revenue
Public safety is the first concern, not business revenue.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:05 pm to BamaCoaster
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Does gov't have the power to influence tourism with a targeted ban during times when certain demographics visit
Yes
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and do they owe anything to the local businesses who's policies it negatively effects?
No more than the business owners have a responsibility to remain open during those same events.
New Orleans businesses close regularly during essence fest. Galveston business do the same for Kappa weekend and the Lone Star Bike Rally. Neither the city or the business owners have a responsibility to one another.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:06 pm to stat19
GS had over 70,000 spring breakers this year.
PCB has been devestated by the booze ban.
Bed taxes down 42% in March, which is hundreds of thousands of dollars in bed tax, alone.
Businesses in the area are down between 30-90% for the year (the two dozen or so I spoke to).
PCB has been devestated by the booze ban.
Bed taxes down 42% in March, which is hundreds of thousands of dollars in bed tax, alone.
Businesses in the area are down between 30-90% for the year (the two dozen or so I spoke to).
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:07 pm to BamaCoaster
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Does gov't have the power to influence tourism with a targeted ban during times when certain demographics visit, and do they owe anything to the local businesses who's policies it negatively effects?
I think the media would say this is ok during spring break, which is primarily young white people, but would freak out if it was New Orleans during Essence Fest or the Bayou Classic.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:09 pm to BamaCoaster
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Bed taxes down 42% in March, which is hundreds of thousands of dollars in bed tax, alone.
Businesses in the area are down between 30-90% for the year (the two dozen or so I spoke to).
What do the locals say about this? Are they okay with the trade off of reduced tax revenue for more peaceful beaches?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:10 pm to BamaCoaster
There's always a beer bust at the moon tower if the party gets shut down.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:10 pm to BamaCoaster
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BamaCoaster
Sounds to me like someone's hair is on fire.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:11 pm to kingbob
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but would freak out if it was New Orleans during Essence Fest or the Bayou Classic.
I hear if you stay open during this time it's a lot of work for little to no money.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:20 pm to BamaCoaster
So who's responsible for cleaning up the beach that gets trashed? Maybe the business owners themselves should get out and do it.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 1:21 pm
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