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Westworld S1 E08: "Trace Decay"
Posted on 11/19/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/19/16 at 5:02 pm
"Bernard struggles with a mandate; Maeve attempts to change her script; Teddy is disturbed by dark memories."
Gonna be interesting to see where we go from here now that we have our first big reveal.
On another note, episode 9 also has its "synopsis" out and it looks like it's gonna be a big "reveal" episode as well concerning Bernard and Dolores.
Gonna be interesting to see where we go from here now that we have our first big reveal.
On another note, episode 9 also has its "synopsis" out and it looks like it's gonna be a big "reveal" episode as well concerning Bernard and Dolores.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/19/16 at 7:05 pm to ell_13
To be reposted.
This post was edited on 11/19/16 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 8:10 pm to ell_13
BETH from TD S1 is the new prost
Hell yeah
Hell yeah
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:01 pm to ell_13
Legit episode. A lot of questions were answered IMO. Still processing it all.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:24 pm to ell_13
To all of the multiple time line people: SUCK MY BALLS
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:01 am to ell_13
Couple of questions:
1. In a park with cameras and security everywhere and a known issue with the hosts, how could two "butchers" carry on with a host , walk around the facility with Maeve and not get caught.
2. Is Fords lab in fact the center of the maze?
1. In a park with cameras and security everywhere and a known issue with the hosts, how could two "butchers" carry on with a host , walk around the facility with Maeve and not get caught.
2. Is Fords lab in fact the center of the maze?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:32 pm to ell_13
For everyone still thinking it doesn't look like much to them, where was Teddy when William and Logan first entered the park? That's how Teddy begins his loop when they reset the park for a new group of customers: riding into town with them on the train. Also, where was Teddy when Dolores killed Rebus and ran away from the ranch where she later crossed paths with William? I think Teddy was nowhere because he wasn't built yet.
Now, remember that in the MiB time, Teddy exists and Dolores knows about Wyatt. The sheriff/marshal comes out to the ranch and tells Teddy in front of Dolores that they're going after Wyatt. Teddy leaves.
Now, I can't remember anywhere in Dolores and William's interactions where Teddy is ever mentioned, much less Wyatt, while we KNOW that both of those hosts are part of Dolores' narrative in the time when MiB and Teddy are going after Wyatt.
Now, back to Dolores and William. That WHOLE story has NOTHING to do with Teddy and Wyatt. That story starts when William decides to go on the bounty hunt, then Logan decides after they catch the guy that they're going to give him back to Lawrence for payday and adventure instead. They then go out into the park and encounter the Ghost Nation, etc., ride the train full of nitroglycerin, etc.
If William and MiB are in the park at the same time, how is Lawrence able to be on his loop where he has a wife and family and then gets dragged around by MiB while at the same time he is on his loop where he is the gang leader in that outpost and then riding a train full of nitroglycerin with William and Delores?
Just think about that for a second. William and MiB are not in the park at the same time, or it doesn't look like much to you. Your call, I guess.
Either way, the fact that this show is intricate enough to make people internet fight shows that it's well done.
Now, remember that in the MiB time, Teddy exists and Dolores knows about Wyatt. The sheriff/marshal comes out to the ranch and tells Teddy in front of Dolores that they're going after Wyatt. Teddy leaves.
Now, I can't remember anywhere in Dolores and William's interactions where Teddy is ever mentioned, much less Wyatt, while we KNOW that both of those hosts are part of Dolores' narrative in the time when MiB and Teddy are going after Wyatt.
Now, back to Dolores and William. That WHOLE story has NOTHING to do with Teddy and Wyatt. That story starts when William decides to go on the bounty hunt, then Logan decides after they catch the guy that they're going to give him back to Lawrence for payday and adventure instead. They then go out into the park and encounter the Ghost Nation, etc., ride the train full of nitroglycerin, etc.
If William and MiB are in the park at the same time, how is Lawrence able to be on his loop where he has a wife and family and then gets dragged around by MiB while at the same time he is on his loop where he is the gang leader in that outpost and then riding a train full of nitroglycerin with William and Delores?
Just think about that for a second. William and MiB are not in the park at the same time, or it doesn't look like much to you. Your call, I guess.
Either way, the fact that this show is intricate enough to make people internet fight shows that it's well done.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:26 pm to ell_13
Ok, for some non timeline related talk, because that's fricking infuriating:
My predictions/thoughts from episode 3:
1: the Maze could be something left in the world by Arnold, and only a few of the hosts in the park even know it exists or have 'easter eggs' left that one could find. (CONFIRMED)
2: I don't think Ed Harris is in cahoots with Hopkins. (CONFIRMED)
3: The maze is for Delores, and she is likely a copy of a dead relative of Arnold's. (EDIT: This explains the grave she found of herself)
And I'm adding some:
4: Ford is making an Elsie host in his cottage basement. She's going to be ready just in time to return from leave.
5: Bernard is Arnold, killed by Ford and brought back as a host because he was too good at the emotions of the hosts. His interest in Delores mirrors Arnold's interest.
6: There is at least 1 more Host who thinks they are a human. They may not have been already introduced.
7: This new storyline that Ford is making has ulterior motives, they might have something to do with flushing out the "Arnold" code lurking out there and destroying it. Why is it happening now? Because Ford has been watching Bernard with Delores and knows some of the Arnold code is coming out. "With repetition comes variation". We have to assume everything Bernard knew or said, Ford also knew. Thus, Wyatt might be the "Free" Arnold that is lurking somewhere, and Ford is trying to stop him from revealing this "maze".
8: The evil motives that Ford and co hint that Delos have are along the lines of using hosts to control people. Something akin to "Invasion of the Body Snatchers or a way to use the hosts as an army to take over or work for them. Ford is evil, but he recognizes a greater evil in Delos.
My predictions/thoughts from episode 3:
1: the Maze could be something left in the world by Arnold, and only a few of the hosts in the park even know it exists or have 'easter eggs' left that one could find. (CONFIRMED)
2: I don't think Ed Harris is in cahoots with Hopkins. (CONFIRMED)
3: The maze is for Delores, and she is likely a copy of a dead relative of Arnold's. (EDIT: This explains the grave she found of herself)
And I'm adding some:
4: Ford is making an Elsie host in his cottage basement. She's going to be ready just in time to return from leave.
5: Bernard is Arnold, killed by Ford and brought back as a host because he was too good at the emotions of the hosts. His interest in Delores mirrors Arnold's interest.
6: There is at least 1 more Host who thinks they are a human. They may not have been already introduced.
7: This new storyline that Ford is making has ulterior motives, they might have something to do with flushing out the "Arnold" code lurking out there and destroying it. Why is it happening now? Because Ford has been watching Bernard with Delores and knows some of the Arnold code is coming out. "With repetition comes variation". We have to assume everything Bernard knew or said, Ford also knew. Thus, Wyatt might be the "Free" Arnold that is lurking somewhere, and Ford is trying to stop him from revealing this "maze".
8: The evil motives that Ford and co hint that Delos have are along the lines of using hosts to control people. Something akin to "Invasion of the Body Snatchers or a way to use the hosts as an army to take over or work for them. Ford is evil, but he recognizes a greater evil in Delos.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:37 pm to ell_13
Amazing episode. I'll need to do a rewatch for sure.
What I took away from this:
- Dolores was one of the first ultra realistic hosts - as shown in flashback with stiff, dancing hosts.
- Bernard killed Elsie
- Security guy going to look very closely into Bernard! Ford better start working on a clone of this guy and give him the old Bernard treatment.
- MIB is a true sociopath. Being as successful as he is on the outside, coupled with his feeling of "nothing" as he takes the life of Maeve's daughter. He is a worthy adversary for Ford. I used to be on the William = MIB train but now I'm not so sure. It seems like Will actually has feelings and emotions. Maybe something happens to William to shape him like this but not so sure.
- Of all the hosts, they choose Abernathy to store the data. What can go wrong?
- Is Sylvester still alive somehow? He got fricked up.
- Those horned men are scary as frick. Very dark shite.
Overall amazing episode. I don't think we got enough to conclusively say whether or not William's scenes are many years before the MIB's and if they are the same person. They do use the same exact knife though:
Lot's of pointing to them being the same but yet NO HARD EVIDENCE either way. Let's just enjoy the ride.
What I took away from this:
- Dolores was one of the first ultra realistic hosts - as shown in flashback with stiff, dancing hosts.
- Bernard killed Elsie
- Security guy going to look very closely into Bernard! Ford better start working on a clone of this guy and give him the old Bernard treatment.
- MIB is a true sociopath. Being as successful as he is on the outside, coupled with his feeling of "nothing" as he takes the life of Maeve's daughter. He is a worthy adversary for Ford. I used to be on the William = MIB train but now I'm not so sure. It seems like Will actually has feelings and emotions. Maybe something happens to William to shape him like this but not so sure.
- Of all the hosts, they choose Abernathy to store the data. What can go wrong?
- Is Sylvester still alive somehow? He got fricked up.
- Those horned men are scary as frick. Very dark shite.
Overall amazing episode. I don't think we got enough to conclusively say whether or not William's scenes are many years before the MIB's and if they are the same person. They do use the same exact knife though:
Lot's of pointing to them being the same but yet NO HARD EVIDENCE either way. Let's just enjoy the ride.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:42 am to ell_13
I enjoy listening to classical when studying and noticed Ford played a Debussy song to calm Maeve down.
I googled the song just now to find it to listen to and this article brought up a pretty awesome safeguard built into Ford's office; the piano player that automatically plays music when he enters.
"Reverie" by Claude Debussy
I googled the song just now to find it to listen to and this article brought up a pretty awesome safeguard built into Ford's office; the piano player that automatically plays music when he enters.
"Reverie" by Claude Debussy
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