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re: Let's think critically about illegal immigration...
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:58 pm to DupontsCircle
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:58 pm to DupontsCircle
Man you're stirring up a hornets nest now, whatever you do don't spread this around. The current administration, by default and otherwise (food stamps, et.al.), has accepted them as citizens by means of refuge. This is why you constantly hear the leftwing socialist/communist call them undocumented immigrants or voters...uhh I didn't mean to put voters in there!
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:00 pm to goatmilker
I like parts of your statement.
A lot of people here don't understand that if you're not from money or a white Mexican then you are just aren't going to get citizenship here due to the Mexican governments rampant corruption.
I'm sure those here or wanting to come here would be more than happy to complete a program regardless of difficulty level to gain citizenship if it gets to skip the Mexican governments part in it.
A lot of people here don't understand that if you're not from money or a white Mexican then you are just aren't going to get citizenship here due to the Mexican governments rampant corruption.
I'm sure those here or wanting to come here would be more than happy to complete a program regardless of difficulty level to gain citizenship if it gets to skip the Mexican governments part in it.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:00 pm to Mir
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fine them % of their wages as part of becoming Americans.
We pay for their healthcare, their schooling, and their homes. Who do you think will be paying for their "fine"?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:02 pm to Mir
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You're thinking with a preconceived bias and end result in mind.
Interesting. What are some of your ideas for dealing with these criminal aliens?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:04 pm to Mir
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I'm sure those here or wanting to come here would be more than happy to complete a program regardless of difficulty level to gain citizenship if it gets to skip the Mexican governments part in it.
What are you basing that belief on?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:05 pm to DupontsCircle
quote:We're the United States. We are better than that.
Surrender or be shot as foreign invaders.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:05 pm to DupontsCircle
its only 20 million...so far...don't worry
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:08 pm to DupontsCircle
quote:So you want state sanctioned execution for what is considered a misdemeanor crime?
Build a huge trench. Staffed with snipers. They enter the hot zone, they get the bullet.
I mean it's one thing to stop them (the wall) and deport them, but to advocate for the government to sanction execution for non-violent behavior is just a ridiculous stance.
Considering the moral implications of this, including the unreasonable overreaction to the situation, the lack of justification for the severe response, and the outrage that will ensue, I'm not sure you used effective critical thinking here.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:09 pm to buckeye_vol
Ya think 
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:10 pm to StripedSaint
Lol why do you think you're paying for their homes or food? You realize they can't apply for welfare or food stamps right
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:11 pm to goatmilker
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How about we just invade Central and South America, enslave those that fight us or aid the enemy or just stand there and then teach them how democracy really works
I'm all for it. I would love to go down there and hunt and fish and dig up some of their lost treasure.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:12 pm to ballscaster
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We're the United States. We are better than that.
What course of action do you suggest? Whatever course that may be..or any course for that matter, nothing can be implemented without first identifying the applicable targets. How do you think this first step be done?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:13 pm to Mir
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Lol why do you think you're paying for their homes or food? You realize they can't apply for welfare or food stamps right
Yer funny.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:13 pm to DupontsCircle
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Surrender or be shot as foreign invaders.
Ya'll are looking more and more like Fascists every day!
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:14 pm to Dale51
Applying the laws that are already on the books is a good start.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:14 pm to goatmilker
quote:I'm not for an increase in any department's budget in until the current fat can be trimmed, but I can't disagree with the rest. Most importantly though, we need to address our entitlement system, including the supports undocumented immigrants.
I don't remember the group that had a slow, hard and fairly reasonable path to citizenship plan but it was laid out quite well.
That being said, unlike the OP, this is a critical and reasonable analysis of the situation and possible solutions.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:15 pm to buckeye_vol
Outrage? We can put up warning signs. Think of it like this. Beware of Dog sign. You get bit by the dog, who fault is it?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:15 pm to Dale51
quote:Three options:
What course of action do you suggest? Whatever course that may be..or any course for that matter, nothing can be implemented without first identifying the applicable targets. How do you think this first step be done?
a) humane deportation
b) amnesty
c) look the other way
Whichever one costs us the least, do that.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:17 pm to LSUfan20005
I am an American Nationalist. I'm for the American people of all races, colors and religions.
I am not for others. Call me a fascist if you want but America was built by force and I'm willing to do the hard things to keep it that way.
I am not for others. Call me a fascist if you want but America was built by force and I'm willing to do the hard things to keep it that way.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:19 pm to DupontsCircle
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These are people coming into our country illegally.
They are subverting the rule of law to illegally occupy our territory.
They refuse to integrate into society, declare themselves and apply for citizenship.
These are enemy combatants. If a foreign power assaults the sovreignty of the United States of America by invading its lands, do we not have a right to defend ourselves against such threats?
I say apply Geneva Convention rules to all illegals coming over the border. Surrender or be shot as foreign invaders.
That doesn't qualify as "critical thinking".
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