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re: Misogynistic/Xenophobic

Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:59 am to
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Before Trump, this word was hardly ever used or heard of when describing people.
I heard these words used very often before this election.
Posted by BooBaDoo
Florida
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:05 am to
Some definitions of these common liberal buzzwords:

Xenophobia - intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.

Misogynistic - strongly prejudiced against women.

They use xenophobe to describe anyone who is against ILLEGAL immigration and the taking in of mass numbers of un-vetted refugees. It's dangerous and we can't afford it. That is a policy issue and is not based in fear. There is nothing "irrational" about wanting to protect our country and our financial futures.

They use misogynistic to describe anyone who voted against or otherwise criticizes Hillary Clinton. Nevermind that Hillary is a liar, bad for the country, and just an a-hole. This dislike for her is not based on strong prejudice, though. They call Trump a misogynist because he criticized HRC, but if he was really "strongly prejudicial to women", he would never allow one to run his campaign.

I am tired of all of this labeling from the liberal left, and I am not the only one, as we learned on November 8th. Not long ago, anyone who opposed a liberal's idiotic rhetoric was instantly labeled a racist. They over used that one, so now they attack others with a variety of "phobes" and "ists". It's funny because many of these liberals will parrot those words without knowing what they mean.

Liberals use these labels as weapons. It's all they have. They cannot argue policy or defend their position on anything, because all of their positions are based on "feelings".
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3611 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:10 am to
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Not long ago, anyone who opposed a liberal's idiotic rhetoric was instantly labeled a racist. They over used that one, so now they attack others with a variety of "phobes" and "ists".


Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #6 and #7

quote:

“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27973 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:14 am to
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My answer is: "So what?"

I kinda like this angle

Why is it heroic for a woman to want a woman as a president, but evil for a man to prefer a man. O mean men are the minority

If we nominated a black, they still wouldn't vote for him. They would resort to "Uncle Tom"

If we would nominate a women, well, see Sarah Palin

Just agree with them, and say its OK for you to root for your side, while I root for mine
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50260 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:15 am to
That is two words.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
2121 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:24 am to
Remember when all of those Democrats crossed party lines to vote for McCain because they were excited about the prospect of a female Vice President? Or how the media adored her and championed her in the name of feminism? Or all of the accolades given to Herman Cain and Dr. Carson as black presidential candidates? The Democrats arrogance + ignorance got them to where we are today, crying in their safe spaces.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:28 am to
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They use xenophobe to describe anyone who is against ILLEGAL immigration and the taking in of mass numbers of un-vetted refugees
This is the dumbest straw man. There is a thorough vetting process in place for Syrian refugees.

The claims of misogyny are not because people (or Trump) criticize Hillary. It has more to do with the words Trump has used to describe women over the past several decades. He's criticized them for their looks, their weight, etc. Not to mention the numerous allegations of sexual assault, and his recorded comments about grabbing women by the pussy.

To say it's just because he criticizes Hillary is farcical.

I totally understand the pushback against these accusations of xenophobia and misogyny--I'm sure there are a lot of Trump supporters who legitimately are not these things. But I think you need to take a more careful look at why these accusations are being made. It's not for the reasons you described. The real reasons are much more reasonable than you seem to think.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 10:29 am
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:30 am to
I learned about misogyny while reading about the Rolling Stones "Under My Thumb". Great song.

Easy money is on ethnocentric as the next buzz word.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7826 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:47 am to
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Hog on the Hill

Then by all accounts Hillary herself is a misogynistic racist. She accused a 12 year old of fantasizing about being with her husband and that leading to the accused rape. She also called black men super predators.

The Trump one's are somewhat comical. Many of his fat and ugly comments were directed towards Rosie O and the like who call him an oompa loompa and make fun of his hair. Why can't he redirect the looks criticism without being labeled sexist? The "they will let me just grab them" comment was intended to be off the record, while I understand the criticism of it, it's not like it's a false statement. A billionaire, and actor, or an athlete have lines of women who will let them do anything to them for a piece of the fame or wealth.

In regards to xenophobia, he wants to make sure the vetting process is as stringent as needed for the safety of the American people.
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There is a thorough vetting process in place for Syrian refugees.

There was a thorough vetting process in place with an 18-24 month window. The president however decided that the vetting process should three months or less back in April.
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