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re: is pearl Jam alt rock or grunge?

Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:13 am to
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Everything else was bad pop music

So basically, you're labeling crap that wasn't "alternative" as bad pop rock and GNR & Metallica were the only good hard rock bands. This is just a preference argument then. It's just because you preferred Seattle bands, everything else was bad. I think I see what you mean with that, but it came off as those two were the only bands worth of shite outside of Seattle producing rock. I don't think that.

Go look at the top albums in that timeframe and as bad as it was IMO, VH-For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was pretty popular, Skid Row had Slave to the Grind, Def Leppards' Adrenalize, Damn Yankees. Ozzy's No more tears. Aerosmith's Get a grip. All in GNR's genre. That's what people listened to. It's just you preferred something different.

You want something comparable to Metallica?

Pantera, Anthrax, Suicidal Tendencies, Megadeth, all had some of their best albums albums in that timeframe.

You want the classic rock type bands?

ZZ Top - recycler
Pink Floyd - Division Bell
Rolling Stones - Voodoo Lounge, Steel Wheels
Rush - Roll the Bones, Counterparts
Eric Clapton's - unplugged

Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker, Southern Musical, Amorica

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If not for Seattle music, what would rock fans have listened to in 1991-1994?

Ummmm Chili Peppers?
U2 - Achtung baby
Janes Addiction - Ritual
Lenny Kravitz - Mama Said, Are you gonna go my Way
Tool - Opiate, Undertow
INXS - X
REM - Out of Time, Automatic, Monster
Stone Temple Pilots
That little band band from Chicago called Smashing Pumpkins.


Maybe you want to call the above alternative but they all were played on mainstream radio and MTV and comparable to Seattle bands in airplay and popularity. Or maybe you meant, if not for "alternative" music, what would have rock fans listened to in 91-94? And the answer you gave was stuff you didn't prefer even though it was the popular music of the time so I labeled it as bad pop rock(which it kind of was).

Man this threda reminded of just how much I loathe Aerosmith's Living on the Edge and Crazy. all 1993.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 9:23 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27057 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:34 am to
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Ummmm Chili Peppers?
U2 - Achtung baby
Janes Addiction - Ritual
Lenny Kravitz - Mama Said, Are you gonna go my Way
Tool - Opiate, Undertow
INXS - X
REM - Out of Time, Automatic, Monster
Stone Temple Pilots
That little band band from Chicago called Smashing Pumpkins.



Each of these bands got lumped into alt rock. Perhaps my point was poorly worded.

Alternative rock slowly became what Rock is.

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Pantera,

Thought they were more mid 90's? Regardless I'll grant you them. but lump them into metallica music.

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VH-For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was pretty popular, Skid Row had Slave to the Grind, Def Leppards' Adrenalize, Damn Yankees. Ozzy's No more tears. Aerosmith's Get a grip.


Agreed, we are now just getting into personal preference. All of these are a big "Nope" for me.

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Eric Clapton's - unplugged



I started to mention 10,000 Maniacs as the entire Unplugged series was a gem in the early 90's. Claptons being one of the crown jewels.

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Black Crowes - Shake Your Money


That was pre Grunge. Or at least it was pre national consciousness of Grunge and Alt Rock. You were the guy who had the Sub Pop Tape or you weren't. Otherwise nobody I knew knew there was anything going on in Seattle while living in SETX.

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Man this threda reminded of just how much I loathe Aerosmith's Living on the Edge and Crazy. all 1993.



Finding Pearl Jam in 1991-2 was a revelation for me. Coul not stand everything else. I listened to country because if you wanted to chase poon at The Longhorn in 1991-?? you needed to know your country. But Seattle music was what we listened to on the way to places EVERY NIGHT!

I was 17-21 during that span. so it shaped what my lifes music would be. That and the "music buddy" every guy had who got you listening to older shite that your parents did not expose you to. That was the Led Zepplin Boxed Set for me..... and The Doors. Among others.

It just happened that Seattle hit at the same time that IMO everyones ear is the most receptive. Late high school and college. Friends turn you onto older shite too. Social Distortion, Cult, Cure, Smiths....

But under it all was Seattle Music for me. Minus the flannel. SETX is too damned hot for flannel. I did have a sweet pair of Doc Martens though. Lower profile though. They basically looked like a pair of Red Wings.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16164 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 4:09 pm to
Stp I'm pretty sure was from the nw because it was a mix of sound garden pearl jam iirc. And yeah I always considered aic was just metal same as metallica. Which I guess is kind of a genre of rock.
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