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re: West World Ep. 2 Early Streaming thread HBONow **Spoilers** discussion
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:11 pm to JB Bama
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:11 pm to JB Bama
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The area the guys enter the park with in Episode 2 looks new, that same area in Episode 1 is run down and no longer in use.
guess i need a rewatch. don't remember that
was pretty sleepy sunday night
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:16 pm to JB Bama
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The area the guys enter the park with in Episode 2 looks new, that same area in Episode 1 is run down and no longer in use
Not the same area.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:21 pm to JB Bama
No one thinks that the incident over 30 years ago isn't from the original movie? Making the Man in Black (Ed Harris) out to be Peter Martin from the original, or will he just end up being the new version of Gunslinger from the original. Are they having any connection with one another or is this a complete reboot?
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:22 pm to Sasquatch Smash
from an article i read the other day
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Earlier, Wood told the L.A. Times that fans have to be glued to their seats and keep their eyes on the screen in order to understand the complex layers of the show because not everything is as it seems. “It’s a show you really want to pay attention to while you’re watching it. Everything means something,” she said. “I think when this series is done, your DVRs are going to break because everyone is immediately going to go back and re-watch the whole thing, and it will probably be better the second time.”
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:52 pm to Nado Jenkins83
First episode was definitely better the second time. I haven't rewatched the second - it was more set up/transition it seemed at first. I think there is a lot to look at, though - for clues as to whether white hat/black hat are from a past timeline. I'm not sold on that theory at this point.
But, Lawrence's scene is worth a rewatch - particularly the staff's reaction to it on video.
But, Lawrence's scene is worth a rewatch - particularly the staff's reaction to it on video.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:56 pm to Scrowe
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No one thinks that the incident over 30 years ago isn't from the original movie?
There is speculation that Harris' MiB is a connection to the film, as is the "last major incident was over 30 years ago" comment. Of course we're over 40 years since the film. IF one assumes a shift of 10 years then, it can make sense as Ed Harris is 11 to 12 years younger than Richard Benjamin (who played Peter Martin in the film).
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will he just end up being the new version of Gunslinger from the original.
My original thought as well - that he had somehow crossed over and emulated a guest. However, I think there is some twist going on - as nothing indicates he is anything other than a guest, even the staff recognizes him as such - Thor's brother said he gets whatever he wants, implying a special guest status.
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Are they having any connection with one another or is this a complete reboot?
I think we're clearly in between at this point, barring additional information in the storyline. Not a direct sequel (thus far) - not a 100% detached reboot (because of the references to this incident decades in the past). It's ambiguous and works for me so far.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:03 pm to Ace Midnight
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There is speculation that Harris' MiB is a connection to the film, as is the "last major incident was over 30 years ago" comment. Of course we're over 40 years since the film. IF one assumes a shift of 10 years then, it can make sense as Ed Harris is 11 to 12 years younger than Richard Benjamin (who played Peter Martin in the film).
I've yet to see the original film, but I don't think our real-world time should be taken too literally when it comes to "on-screen" time. It's possible the series is directly connected to the movie only 30 years later regardless of production times. Then again, could just be a "based on" type of situation with no connection other than subject matter and whatnot.
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However, I think there is some twist going on - as nothing indicates he is anything other than a guest, even the staff recognizes him as such
Agreed. Thinking he is some guest operating on a high level package at the park.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:27 pm to Ace Midnight
I watched them both twice. Loved watching it again and picking up new things.
I'm still just trying to take it all in rather than over-analyze the thing. I do the same thing with GOT. So right now my biggest interest is in what Hopkins has planned.
I'm still just trying to take it all in rather than over-analyze the thing. I do the same thing with GOT. So right now my biggest interest is in what Hopkins has planned.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 3:51 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Earlier, Wood told the L.A. Times that fans have to be glued to their seats and keep their eyes on the screen in order to understand the complex layers of the show because not everything is as it seems. “It’s a show you really want to pay attention to while you’re watching it. Everything means something,” she said. “I think when this series is done, your DVRs are going to break because everyone is immediately going to go back and re-watch the whole thing, and it will probably be better the second time.”
It's awesome how she's really a fan of it. She's a nerd about it. That's cool. I feel like a lot of the time actors are pretty much just like "yeah I took that job."
Posted on 10/13/16 at 3:55 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Keep in mind the 73 movie may NOT have been set in 73.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:21 pm to Ace Midnight
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s nothing indicates he is anything other than a guest, even the staff recognizes him as such - Thor's brother said he gets whatever he wants, implying a special guest status.
I just took that to mean he's a guest and he can do what he wants. These people are paying millions of dollars to do this stuff
And another point against multiple timelines, they show Delores in the same role in both supposed timelines doing the same thing. She is the oldest host on the park, yes, but it is highly unlikely that she only had one role for 30 years given that they stated that these hosts have been switched around a good bit and that's why the reveries are so important
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:36 pm to wildtigercat93
ALSO on the two timeline theory
They show white hat young guy (forgot his name), in the same scene as they show Delores...who then turns and has what can only be assumed is a revery. At the same time that she is near the young guy which would show that it has to be present day because the reveries weren't invented until recently
Boom
They show white hat young guy (forgot his name), in the same scene as they show Delores...who then turns and has what can only be assumed is a revery. At the same time that she is near the young guy which would show that it has to be present day because the reveries weren't invented until recently
Boom
Posted on 10/13/16 at 5:59 pm to wildtigercat93
When I watched it again I heard the guy say "That guest can do what he wants." As if he was special and not to be manipulated by a manufactured storyline.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:03 pm to ell_13
It wasn't emphasized like that at all, I just watched it too
He glances at the screen where you can't even tell who the guy is or see his face and Hemsworth just brushes off the other guy by saying "that gentlemen gets whatever he wants" nonchalantly
He was barely paying attention to who he was or what he was doing. It seems very obvious to me that he was just like "he can do whatever bc he paid for it"
He glances at the screen where you can't even tell who the guy is or see his face and Hemsworth just brushes off the other guy by saying "that gentlemen gets whatever he wants" nonchalantly
He was barely paying attention to who he was or what he was doing. It seems very obvious to me that he was just like "he can do whatever bc he paid for it"
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:22 pm to wildtigercat93
Then why ask the question as if it's an option? It's a dumb, pointless question if it's simply protocol to not have the guests lead into (and out of) situations. Which, of course, we know not to be true. They're manipulated in some way all the time. Something you'd think a tech in his position would know if it were protocol.
And the guy does answer nonchalantly and to the point. More as if it's someone he knows gets more freedom than others.
And the guy does answer nonchalantly and to the point. More as if it's someone he knows gets more freedom than others.
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:31 pm to ell_13
It's incredibly obvious that he was talking about the MiB specifically being able to do whatever he wants in the park.
Otherwise they would have "whoa buddy'd" him, seeing as the whole point of the guy bringing it up was because guests obviously have some kind of limit to how much they kill, how much they frick, etc.
Otherwise they would have "whoa buddy'd" him, seeing as the whole point of the guy bringing it up was because guests obviously have some kind of limit to how much they kill, how much they frick, etc.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:33 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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from an article i read the other day
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Earlier, Wood told the L.A. Times that fans have to be glued to their seats and keep their eyes on the screen in order to understand the complex layers of the show because not everything is as it seems. “It’s a show you really want to pay attention to while you’re watching it. Everything means something,” she said. “I think when this series is done, your DVRs are going to break because everyone is immediately going to go back and re-watch the whole thing, and it will probably be better the second time.”
This show does have amazing re-watchability. Probably more-so than any show that I have watched.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:53 pm to wildtigercat93
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I just took that to mean he's a guest and he can do what he wants.
Well, the fact that he was a guest is a given. The assistant tells Thor's brother, "This guest has already gone through a whole posse. You want me to slow him down?"
TB says, "That gentleman gets whatever he wants."
So, it's obviously more than ordinary guest privilege.
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These people are paying millions of dollars to do this stuff
I don't think we have a reference point for how much (and how much that is in today's dollars) or what class of clientele the park has, other than it is represented as being for the very rich. On the surface, that seems to be a truism for a story like that. But at a deeper level, they're talking about the real world - in the real world, the "rich" are akin to the "guests" in Westworld (who are also "rich" in the real world), and ordinary people are the "hosts" of the real world.
Has to be a metaphor in there somewhere.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:56 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Because all the land out there belongs to the federal government and they won't sell it or let you develop it. Check out a map of federal land in the US. Almost all of Nevada Arizona and Utah are federal land. It's pretty astounding the first time you see it.
Maybe in this future the US govt is willing to sell. Or for all we know the US doesn't even exist in this future. They could just as well find some empty land somewhere and make it into their park. It wouldn't even have to be a desert type area. Regardless I don't know if the show will go much into the location.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:56 pm to wildtigercat93
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They show white hat young guy (forgot his name)
I think white hat is William (Jimmi Simpson) and black hat is Logan (Ben Barnes).
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