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What really happened in the 2nd quarter?
Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:46 am
Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:46 am
Yes, Etling came in. He had pocket presence and seemed comfortable, he provided a spark..... But I can't put my finger on why all of a sudden everything seemed so effortless.
Is Etling that much better than Harris? He certainly looked more poised but it seems highly unlikely that he's a superstar and the coaching staff would deliberately start the lesser qb.
Was it because Etling checked down/ looked at multiple receivers? This seems plausible but are our primary receivers covered that often? When Harris throws it seems like there are always 2 defenders near the receiver. Every receiver Etling threw to was open by ten yards. Why were they all of a sudden so open?
Did we run different plays with Etling? Or have different personnel sets? More shotgun or pistol? It sure seemed like it, but why would the coaching staff call difficult plays with a struggling quarterback, then after benching him, open up the magical playbook to call qb friendly plays for the backup? It makes no sense.
My best guess is: the plays were the same, Harris just couldn't execute. He was rattled and Etling was able to execute the more open passing game. I think we went super conservative in the 2nd half which explains the pedestrian passing stats. I don't know but I sure hope the coaching staff knows what happened.
Is Etling that much better than Harris? He certainly looked more poised but it seems highly unlikely that he's a superstar and the coaching staff would deliberately start the lesser qb.
Was it because Etling checked down/ looked at multiple receivers? This seems plausible but are our primary receivers covered that often? When Harris throws it seems like there are always 2 defenders near the receiver. Every receiver Etling threw to was open by ten yards. Why were they all of a sudden so open?
Did we run different plays with Etling? Or have different personnel sets? More shotgun or pistol? It sure seemed like it, but why would the coaching staff call difficult plays with a struggling quarterback, then after benching him, open up the magical playbook to call qb friendly plays for the backup? It makes no sense.
My best guess is: the plays were the same, Harris just couldn't execute. He was rattled and Etling was able to execute the more open passing game. I think we went super conservative in the 2nd half which explains the pedestrian passing stats. I don't know but I sure hope the coaching staff knows what happened.
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Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:47 am to a want
Les thought he was going to show the fans how stupid we were. He expected both qbs to fail. When Etling looked good, it was lemons.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:48 am to a want
Every completion, 1st down, pass to a TE, pass for a TD, puts the pressure on Less. We've been told for the past few years now that we don't have the personnel to run certain packages and every time DE completed a pass, it showed that maybe we've been lied to. It was in his Less' best interest to shut it down.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:48 am to a want
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He certainly looked more poised but it seems highly unlikely that he's a superstar
We don't need a superstar. What you saw in the second quarter is exactly what we need, fool.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:52 am to a want
He made the short passes look easy which is what they supposed to be.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 8:55 am to a want
Look. Did I like the second quarter? Yes! Did it give me a little hope we have a playbook that includes screens and passes to the TE? Yes. Do I think we will contend based on what I saw? Maybe with the lower 1/3 of the west.
Everyone needs to pump the brakes on DE. Why?
1. Miles would have started him if there was a decided difference in the 2. I'm convinced of that.
2. Maybe the TO is what Miles saw in practice?
3. You can believe that Miles hasnt forgotten about 2014. he looks at the whole picture
4. Miles also knows he is coaching for his life and he knows how important possessions are in football.
5. Our OLINE and 5 star receivers are still not where they need to be. Dural couldn't get open and Dupree can't catch a cold.
6. This defense has lots of coverage issues. If not for dropped balls and a few errant passes, barely off, this game looks much different. The Dline doesn't seem to pressure much nor are they able to play the zone read well enough.
Here's the challenge to all of you, pick me out the wins based on what I said above?
MooState? - Mullen's defense beat a good SCe team. That QB look great against a good defense.
AU? - defense looks very formidable
Arky? Brute force on defense and offense will get there.
Bama - no
Ole Miss ? I can't wait for this one at home. I believe we beat them because our defense will get to swag. Not sure why I feel that way.
TAMU - they are much better on defense (and offense) and the QB will be under pressure - a lot.
MO? Win
South Bama? This is a decent team but win
So Miss - if we play anywhere near the way we played in the second quarter - win
Everyone needs to pump the brakes on DE. Why?
1. Miles would have started him if there was a decided difference in the 2. I'm convinced of that.
2. Maybe the TO is what Miles saw in practice?
3. You can believe that Miles hasnt forgotten about 2014. he looks at the whole picture
4. Miles also knows he is coaching for his life and he knows how important possessions are in football.
5. Our OLINE and 5 star receivers are still not where they need to be. Dural couldn't get open and Dupree can't catch a cold.
6. This defense has lots of coverage issues. If not for dropped balls and a few errant passes, barely off, this game looks much different. The Dline doesn't seem to pressure much nor are they able to play the zone read well enough.
Here's the challenge to all of you, pick me out the wins based on what I said above?
MooState? - Mullen's defense beat a good SCe team. That QB look great against a good defense.
AU? - defense looks very formidable
Arky? Brute force on defense and offense will get there.
Bama - no
Ole Miss ? I can't wait for this one at home. I believe we beat them because our defense will get to swag. Not sure why I feel that way.
TAMU - they are much better on defense (and offense) and the QB will be under pressure - a lot.
MO? Win
South Bama? This is a decent team but win
So Miss - if we play anywhere near the way we played in the second quarter - win
This post was edited on 9/11/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:02 am to a want
Offense was changed to simplify things for the QB. LSU has the personnel to run a highly efficient offense, but Miles dialed it way down in the 2nd half. In the 2nd half Etling looked every bit like B Harris with the playcalling.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:04 am to a want
IMO, Harris doesn't hit Desean on that play. He would have thrown it quicker to butter fingers
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:07 am to a want
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Was it because Etling checked down/ looked at multiple receivers?
He also had very good pocket awareness and wasn't afraid to run if the defense allowed it.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:07 am to a want
First pass with the checkdowns to Williams tells you all you need to know. With Etling you have multiple reads... Both pre and post snap.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:09 am to a want
Etling ran the offense efficiently. There appeared to be no communication breakdowns which seem to happen way too much with Les Miles run offenses. You already mentioned good pocket presence. He is also the most accurate QB on the LSU sideline this year. He can actually hit a receiver 7 yards away. Another point, Etling was fundementally sound at the QB position. Notice during hand offs to the backs Etling stayed committed to QB fundementals by finishing the play by faking the play action while the RB take the ball between the tackles. This is so important because it freezes the LB for a split second which helps to create better running lanes for our running backs.
I hope we stop the toss dive now. It does nothing in terms of faking out the defense. Everyone and their mother can sell out to stop the run on that play. It's just a dumb play that gives the defense total advantage.
I hope we stop the toss dive now. It does nothing in terms of faking out the defense. Everyone and their mother can sell out to stop the run on that play. It's just a dumb play that gives the defense total advantage.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:12 am to a want
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Is Etling that much better than Harris? He certainly looked more poised but it seems highly unlikely that he's a superstar and the coaching staff would deliberately start the lesser qb.
It's tells Miles has no clue. He can't evaluate talent if he thinks BH is the best player to play qb for the Tigers. When he makes a bad decision starting a player that isn't up to the task, he will not change, he keeps trying to force a round peg through a square hole.He did it with JL and JJ. The only reason he put DE in was he knew he would be out of a job if he didn't make a change.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:13 am to a want
Everyone knows what Harris is gonna do and everyone knows what Fournette is gonna do. As soon as those two were out of the game, Jacksonville State didn't know what was coming.
We were unpredictable for one quarter. But Les fixed that problem during half time.
We were unpredictable for one quarter. But Les fixed that problem during half time.
This post was edited on 9/11/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:15 am to a want
I swear in the 4th qtr I saw our QB look at his wrist play book thingy and call a play never looked at the sideline ?? And it worked
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:17 am to a want
His throw was late on the int. Dupree had to stop but should still have fought for the play. He really needs to step up his game if he wants to go in the early rounds of the draft.
This post was edited on 9/11/16 at 9:18 am
Posted on 9/11/16 at 9:20 am to a want
Intelligence happened
Posted on 9/11/16 at 10:25 am to a want
Miles gets up by 3 to 7 points and goes into a shell. Look at his past and see how many games he just squeaks by. Every so often he loses games that he should have won. Hate quoting Saban, but he is correct in that if you let an opponent hang around long enough they will beat you. Miles continuously takes his foot off the gas. This results in poor play and does not give the backups valuable playing time and causes the next years team to be inexperienced. The Wisconsin game is an example. Miles thought he would win the game on the last drive with a FG and everyone would be happy with the game results. IF that would have happened the game last night would have been a nail biter to the end. See how quickly he shut down the offense in the second half last night.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 10:28 am to a want
CLLLLEEEEARLY different plays. BH ran the old stuff almost exclusively, two WR sets. When Etling took the field, on his 3rd snap, we went to the "new stuff". On the replay, I counted 5 different possible targets, with the TE on a rail route. Maybe Les didn't want to show this stuff against Wisconsin or Jacksonville. I don't understand why he didn't run it with BH on the field.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 10:32 am to a want
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I sure hope the coaching staff knows what happened
Posted on 9/11/16 at 11:01 am to a want
LSUs offense was playing scared in the 1st quarter. The play calling, the QBing and everyone else seemed terrified of making mistakes. So everyone was noticeably hesitant. When Etling entered the game it was as if the fear just went away.
If the past is any guide, then Brandon Harris has taken his last game snaps at QB for LSU barring injury. I think the coaches realized his confidence was not very deep, and they tried limiting the play calls to those he had a higher chance of executing successfully in hopes of building his confidence. It didn't work. There was no new playbook for the 2nd quarter. It was simply a case of the coaches not worrying so much about Etling becoming a basket case if plays did not succeed.
If the past is any guide, then Brandon Harris has taken his last game snaps at QB for LSU barring injury. I think the coaches realized his confidence was not very deep, and they tried limiting the play calls to those he had a higher chance of executing successfully in hopes of building his confidence. It didn't work. There was no new playbook for the 2nd quarter. It was simply a case of the coaches not worrying so much about Etling becoming a basket case if plays did not succeed.
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