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Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:59 am to Goyas
The winners of wars get to write the history and the narrative of what the ideals of a symbol stand for. In the end, the "idea" of our Republic are noble and good. The flag is one of the symbols of that vague notion of noble and good ideals of man, and that is good enough for me. We aren't there, but the ideals represented by the symbol is something to never stop striving for.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:59 am to Goyas
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As a Ph.D. candidate
Subtle brag is subtle
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:02 pm to Goyas
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We have amendments and clauses still in law that were meant to subjugate them. We have prosecutors to this day that still seek juries that were punitively punish and convict black defendants because of racial prejudices. Explain to me in your opinion why black Americans can and should blindly trust in a system that has, more so than not, not had their best interest in mind? Whether it was repealing slavery then ushering in Jim Crow right after that, or the beginning of the industrial prison complex in the 1870s to round up those freed men, or laws used to punitively restrict their economic advancements. Or the Democratic Party taking black votes for 50 years and giving them nothing but ruined cities and more plight, when has someone actually had their plights in mind, and not their representation to some sort of fiscal or political gain?
Please show me laws and amendments currently in force that sanction discrimination against blacks or any other group. As a nation we have eliminated lawful discrimination. There are still some instances of individual discrimination and that will never end anywhere on earth.
What the current climate of protest is doing is furthering division between people and making matters worse. Racism was on a natural decline and would continue to decline if people would ignore small slights and protest only egregious instances of racism. The current activities of BLM will only make matters worse, which I suspect is their real objective.
For those willing to listen, it has been debunked that blacks are killed more often that whites by police. Statistics show that blacks are less likely to be shot by the police than whites.
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The United States is most likely the most diverse nation on earth and is also one of, if not the least, racist nation.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:13 pm to Goyas
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How can one take offense to perceived slights against the wounded soldiers and vets and blindly ignore the way we and our govt treats some of them upon return.
How is that at issue with the whole Kaepernick thing? The reason people are pissed off about Kaepernick is that they think he is disrespecting the flag and anthem and what they represent. Personally I don't have an issue with it. He is silently and nonviolently protesting. He's brought some attention to the issue of his choice. Now whether you agree that his protest has merit or not, the way he's going about it is about as American as you can get.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:22 pm to Goyas
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dwelling on the perpetuation of historical conditions
I would say that it is more dwelling on the belief that historical conditions are being perpetuated even if they are not. I liken it to the story from the other day of the woman who claims that when a man audibly farts in her presence, the man is raping her. It is total BS!
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:25 pm to Goyas
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As a Ph.D. candidate, i
need to get a life
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:29 pm to 777Tiger
how has this alter not been called out yet? Just joined and first postings were on the OT. That is always a sure fire sign of an alter.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:32 pm to Goyas
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Is it too humbling to admit the thing you deem as perfect is infact imperfect
Perfect?
Here in lies the problem in the debate. America is and has been a beacon of light and hope and Ideals. No one says it's perfect!
If perfection is the standard then criticisms will abound with no end…
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:52 pm to munchman
I mention perfection because people only want to harp on the good.
That's why this poster base adorns Ronald Reagan. Why would s black person that lived in the inner cities in the 80s like Ronald Reagan ?
That's why this poster base adorns Ronald Reagan. Why would s black person that lived in the inner cities in the 80s like Ronald Reagan ?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 1:11 pm to Goyas
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Why would s black person that lived in the inner cities in the 80s like Ronald Reagan ?
Why would A black person living in the inner-city Baltimore, Chicago, Philadelphia, etc. like Obama?
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