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Vinyl vs CD, etc. your opinion?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:54 pm
Had a belt driven turntable in the house when I was you ger, by the time I was really getting into music CDs and cassette tapes dominated the market. The music I was into, wasn't readily available in vinyl.
Since, I have never really dabbled in the world of it. Was thinking about getting a turntable setup for loud home listening.
The music I'd be buying and collecting would be mostly a mix of Norwegian and Swedish Black Metal, plus many of the sub categories associated with it. Probably a lot of thrash, groove, etc. too. If it's worth it, that's why I'm bringing it to the music board for opinions on quality of sound.
Plus I'm a fan of album art. Mp3s are ok but I still enjoy exploring an album.
If anyone has any input or tips on good equipment for vinyl home audio it's appricated.
Since, I have never really dabbled in the world of it. Was thinking about getting a turntable setup for loud home listening.
The music I'd be buying and collecting would be mostly a mix of Norwegian and Swedish Black Metal, plus many of the sub categories associated with it. Probably a lot of thrash, groove, etc. too. If it's worth it, that's why I'm bringing it to the music board for opinions on quality of sound.
Plus I'm a fan of album art. Mp3s are ok but I still enjoy exploring an album.
If anyone has any input or tips on good equipment for vinyl home audio it's appricated.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:00 pm to SEClint
The stuff you want to listen to is recorded with the lowest quality production equipment imaginable so vinyl would be ok. I think for any modern music recorded in a decent studio cd is best. Some people say vinyl is best overall but it doesn't make sense to me to listen to music that was recorded digitally on an analog format.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:14 pm to Brosef Stalin
yeah, I was thinking that it would compliment the sound of what I'm wanting to collect. A lot of early Burzum, Darkthrone, Bathory, Emperor, Mayhem, Immortal, Dark Funeral, First two Dissection albums, Etc.
Other things too of course like, the last Dissection album "Reinkaos". Which has some decent production, and Gaahl era Gorgoroth and so on
Other things too of course like, the last Dissection album "Reinkaos". Which has some decent production, and Gaahl era Gorgoroth and so on
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:20 pm to SEClint
I love vinyl, but I don't listen to the types of music you do... I never by CDs anymore, since these days, everything I like is available on vinyl...
And most come with digital downloads, which I find acceptable for an alternate format, primarily away from home...
edit: the biggest issue with vinyl is, it's a space eater if you buy a lot..
And most come with digital downloads, which I find acceptable for an alternate format, primarily away from home...
edit: the biggest issue with vinyl is, it's a space eater if you buy a lot..
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:33 pm to SEClint
Without getting too technical (mainly bc I'm still learning), vinyl is a fully analog and fully lossless format, meaning you're hearing it as the artist intended you to without losing any information in the process. You do need a decent table and equipment to truly reap the benefits. CD's are compressed so that all that information can be stored on a "compact disc". So it's less than its original size. MP3's compress it even further to fit the info on a smaller file. That being said, a well mastered CD sounds every bit as good as a vinyl record, or even better in some cases. Just like a poorly mastered vinyl record will sound worse than a CD sometimes. What sucks is when the record companies become engaged in the "loudness wars" and compress and smash CD's to all hell just to make them louder. It totally kills the dynamic range and the feel of the actual music.
Some of the heavier stuff I listen to (Deftones, Clutch, old Korn), sound pretty good on vinyl, probably for the simple fact that it's not smashed to death like the CD's are...
Some of the heavier stuff I listen to (Deftones, Clutch, old Korn), sound pretty good on vinyl, probably for the simple fact that it's not smashed to death like the CD's are...
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:47 am to river_man
Back in the day when I was a working Mobile DJ on the west bank I loved the feel of mixing with Vinyl on Technics 1200 turn tables. I hated the POPS of vinyl after it had been spun a few times. After the CD revolution came out and the quality of the audio was so much crisper and clearer They started producing cheaper and cheaper recycled vinyl that did not hold up past one are two plays on standard cart heads stylus on the 1200 turn tables.
Numark came out with some CDX CD players that mimicked the feel of the old Technics turntables with 12" motor driven platters. The only problem was the CD player in them were trash.
Now everything is digital with MIDI players controlling electronic audio files through DJ programs like Virtual DJ and Serato. One can learn to control, Mix and scratch on these players but it is not the same as it was with Turntables and vinyl.
Numark came out with some CDX CD players that mimicked the feel of the old Technics turntables with 12" motor driven platters. The only problem was the CD player in them were trash.
Now everything is digital with MIDI players controlling electronic audio files through DJ programs like Virtual DJ and Serato. One can learn to control, Mix and scratch on these players but it is not the same as it was with Turntables and vinyl.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:00 am to SEClint
My favorite aspect of vinyl is you become more intimate with an album. No skipping songs, no just listening to one or two songs on the album then moving on. You put an album on, and you listen to the entire side.
The sound difference is pretty negligible to me, though a well produced vinyl does have a more fuller sound. I don't have the fanciest setup though, nor would I consider myself an audiophile.
The sound difference is pretty negligible to me, though a well produced vinyl does have a more fuller sound. I don't have the fanciest setup though, nor would I consider myself an audiophile.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:44 am to The Spleen
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My favorite aspect of vinyl is you become more intimate with an album. No skipping songs, no just listening to one or two songs on the album then moving on. You put an album on, and you listen to the entire side.
Exactly. It's the whole experience of vinyl. It forces you to pay attention. I tend to buy vinyl for home listening, and then digitally download the album for on-the-go portable listening. I do love having portability (and it's why I don't like cloud-based listening, as there are times I don't have good wi-fi, I want it locally on my own hard drive). Almost every new record comes with a download, so its no big big deal.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:07 pm to SEClint
The audiophile thread has a lot of discussion on good equipment. I'm a fan of vintage stuff. They are pretty easy to work on, hold up well, and sound great.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:57 pm to SUB
I love vinyl, but its sort a pain in the butt. It takes up a lot of space, and it can take a long time to find what you want.
It does force you to submerge yourself in the album though.
I still have a bunch of vinyl back from the 80s and 90s but I don't pick up much these days.
I pretty much only do digital. Its so much easier to deal with.
It does force you to submerge yourself in the album though.
I still have a bunch of vinyl back from the 80s and 90s but I don't pick up much these days.
I pretty much only do digital. Its so much easier to deal with.
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