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re: Les Miles is not well thought of on gameday...

Posted on 8/17/16 at 2:42 am to
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
55472 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 2:42 am to
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Gosh, so many experts and bullshite opinions in this thread about anonymous opinions. Makes me laugh.




F&D for you.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4977 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 4:37 am to
Because he had a 5th year player in Flynn and a first year OC genius who was let loose with the playcalling. Then he had a guy called Mettenberger with a cannon of an arm and 2 great WR in OBJ and Jarvis Landry
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67749 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 5:30 am to
How do other teams' coaches know the number of plays and the types of plays we run at practice?

Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4977 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 5:52 am to
Nice facts, but you have to include defense in the game but the score is where you win or lose. Bama's point differential from offense to defense is where they shine. Who needs a lot of points when you shut out opponents? Just wear down the defense and move the chains is all you need, then rely on your defense.

Alabama allowed only 15 ppg, 276 ypg, 4.3 ypp
LSU 24.3 ppg, 347 ypg, 5.2 ypp
Wisconsin (Aranda) 13.7 ppg, 268 ypg, 4.4 ypp

The above stats with Steele ad Def Coord. and no imagination on offense against the good competition, or the inability to practice the throw and catch during the season against cupcakes, and the shitty game plan against Bama was LSU's undoing after a 7-0 start, and why Fournette lost the Heisman.

I am really not into personal goals however that trophy should have been his. If we had a better game plan against Bama we still lose to them, but not as demoralizing and we play better against Ole Miss and Arkansas, and lose only 1 or 2 games and play a BCS Bowl game!

This year I think we do open it up more because his firing, then un-firing was as real as it gets and there is a lot of leverage on Miles, and he has to win or perform in more dynamic/unpredictable play calling like some up above people demand him to (And all of us fans- We want an offense that is exciting and unpredictable and keeps the def off balance). If he does that Fournette will have much more yards then if he carried 28 times per game pounding the middle as he will get them in larger chunks. We do that with the talent we have, and we have a smooth transition from 4-3 to 3-4 with some help from 4-5 key talented freshmen plus TV fills solidly at nose, then we should win the SEC Ch. game and be in the 4 team playoff.

Stats that I dream of for this season that would win it all:

Offense:

39 ppg
490 ypg
Rush Yards- 250/game
Pass Yards- 240/game- would be ranked about 50th out of 127 teams (Last year we were #105, and worse in 2013-14)
6,800 total yards
6.7 per play (what we had last year)
70 plays per game
1,014 total plays
approx 9 possessions per game, score Avg. 4-5 TD x 7 points = 35 pts and 2-3 FG x 6 = approx 39-40 ppg

Rushing:

LF- 268 / 1,750 yards (6.5 pc) in regular season, then 22 / 120 yards in SECCG, 1st playoff 25 / 150 yards and title game he gets 23 / 180 yards

LF Final rushing stats 338 / 2,200 = 6.5 pc

Guice- 750 yards
Williams- 350 yards
others- 300 yards

LF, Guice and Williams will have a few catches for some good yards out of the backfield, as well the TE's. Finally!! I would from both positions about 6-7 players will get another 1,500 yards added to receiving yards for the whole season 12 games plus 3 (15) to the title game.

Dural- 55 / 850 yards
Dupre- 50 / 950 yards
Chark- 25 / 470 yards
Davis- 20 / 400 yards

With the receivers we have (The best collection in all NCAA) why should we be happy with a measly 180 ypg (I don't care if we have LF!!) We get balance and proper play calling then we can get at least 270 yards passing per game and still 220-240 rushing... We win it all with those stats!


Defense:

15.5 ppg
280 ypg
4.3 ypp
40 sacks
12 turnover margin
10 turnovers lost (what we had last year ranked #2 in the nation)

Wow, if we do that shite above, we win the Natty

Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14522 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:07 am to
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Gosh, so many experts and bullshite opinions in this thread about anonymous opinions. Makes me laugh.

It is funny but sometimes the fans can see it more than the coaches. For instance when dumbass chavis had beckwith on the bench while welter was getting crushed every play. Fans were screaming just put the guy in and let him learn cant be any worse. I believe after like 1 game he was better than welter ever was. Not saying fans know everything but they are not always wrong.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:37 am to
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How's it going brother?



Whats up Rick?

Just hanging around waiting to head to GB! Really not being very productive these days since football season is right around the corner.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:38 am to
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Anything positive gets a 3-5 page thread, but this simple BS goes 20-30 pages.


Then that ought to tell ya something right?
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7047 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:50 am to
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I bet you got a huge boner reading someone shitting on lsu and mil


I don't see that this guy is "shitting" on LSU. He is just making some observations that while many will find cringe-worthy, most LSU fans agree with what was said.
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:17 am to
You can sum up this thread using posts on the last few pages.

One response, "Do you think Les has ever even heard of shotgun?"

Several posts later someone posted the play-by-play from the first half of the Alabama game. LSU was in shotgun nearly half of the offensive snaps.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:23 am to
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It is funny but sometimes the fans can see it more than the coaches.


Perfect example of the idiocy of a lot of LSU fans.

Fans have no clue.

Good God man just go away you are a fool.
Posted by bigoyster
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2009
623 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:28 am to
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Then that ought to tell ya something right?



That there is an incredibly loud and stupid segment of the LSU fanbase. I hate to say this but on a dumb scale LSU fans are right up there with Auburn fans and just a shade better than Alabama fans.
A lot of them are provincial, delusional, and totally out of touch with the real world.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17908 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:30 am to
Ah yes, Gray Tiger hard at work doing the only thing he's capable of--calling people stupid with no substance or original thought. At least RickyDaddy uses stats and facts to argue a point. All you do is drive by name call, then disappear.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:31 am to
No doubt, I've been watching LSU for years and while it is frustrating to watch the offense struggle so much there are a lot of factors fans don't know about and never will. Has Miles brought a lot of it on himself damn right he has. Should he get the blame? Yep buck stops at the top. Is he trying to fix it? I sure hope so. It will be interesting to see what the offense looks like coming out of the gate. I think and hope we see more of what we saw against TT only with Brandon being even better with accuracy.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2949 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:31 am to
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This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 8:36 am
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:39 am to
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“You put a ceiling on yourself with about nine wins with that offense.”

disagree with this part somewhat
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:47 am to
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You put a ceiling on yourself with about nine wins with that offense.”

disagree with this part somewhat


Considering just last year LSU was a rainout against a rent a win away from topping that 9 wins you have the right to disagree.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:09 am to
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When you love someone or something, you speak the truth instead of sugar-coating things.


this!!

I grew up in BR and graduated from LSU. I love the Tigers - and have for 50 years.

But I've never been a homer. Like the poster said, if you love something, tell the truth and don't just spew rainbows and unicorns. I'm probably much harder on the Tigers than other teams I generally like, but don't have the deep emotional connection to.

I've just never understood the blind homer mentality.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54277 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:29 am to
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I agree with just about all of that.

Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46122 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:41 am to
I see this thread didnt lose any steam when I left
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46122 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:46 am to
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2nd and 10 same formation PA Rollout. Only 1 man can be open. not really open incomplete

3rd and 18 - 3 wide 2 RB Shot gun- deep ball to dural. good throw good catch

3rd and 3 - shotgun 2 WR 1 RB - beautiful arrow route with buga up the middle. Ball barely ahead of him. Incomplete

2nd and 9 - 3WR shotgun - dumped off underneath (looked to be primary route) Dropped

3rd and 9 same formation - terrible protection throws away to save sack

2nd and 12 - shotgun 3WR - TD pass to Dural perfect in stride

1st and 10 - i form- PA Deep. Ball underthrown but obvious PI

1st and 10 - Shotgun 3 WR - Went for TD. ball thrown OB. could have been picked

1st and 10 - I form 2 WR - PA 2nd read to Dupree for 16ish

3rd and 9 - shotgun 3WR - decent pass in traffic receiver seemed to not be looking. A little high. Tough angle to see what happened



Every pass from that 3/9 to start Bama game. He sure proved he was inaccurate....
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