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re: Calling MD's/Med Students

Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:08 pm to
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It's stuff like this that makes me question how straightforward the algorithm is. I know it's supposed to be simple though.


The algorithm is easy- just go to the Wikipedia page on "stable marriage problem" and you'll understand it.

What there isn't an algorithm for is how programs choose to rank people and why. Human factor. You'll never understand it.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:12 pm to
Algorithm is supposedly just that you go to your highest ranked program as long as you are ranked high enough by them. You can't go to your 2nd ranked program if you're ranked high enough to match by your 1st program.

Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28608 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:16 pm to
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What there isn't an algorithm for is how programs choose to rank people and why. Human factor. You'll never understand it.


This is probably right. I heard so many stories of people having program directors tell them they wanted them at their program and were ranking the candidate highly only to have them drop to their 5th choice on the rank list. I know people with step scores way higher than me and great evals and extracurriculars (like head of the Texas student branch of the AMA or some shite) who only got a few interviews in the specialty I matched into and ended up matching into something else. None of this makes sense to me. I used to think that we had some say in where we end up but the process has made me pessimistic
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21687 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:14 pm to
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What there isn't an algorithm for is how programs choose to rank people and why. Human factor. You'll never understand it.


I was chief resident of my program my last year of residency, and one of my duties was to participate in the interview process for applicants. I probably did 50-60 interviews over 3 days, took a lot of notes, etc. At the end of the last day, I had a rough idea of who I thought were excellent candidates, but I really had a hard time ranking everyone from 1-50 or 60 (whatever the number was). So, I figured when we all gathered to discuss things, it would take a very long time to sort through everyone.

We went into a conference room, the program director put all of the applications on the table and would hold up one at a time. We'd vote "yes" or "no", and she made two piles. After that, we got a chance to make a case for someone we thought was good or bad from the "yes" pile. The program director would listen while arranging the pile of "yes" candidates, and after we got through all of those, the rank list was determined. It took a total of about 30-45 minutes.

So, a committee of about 8 spent 3 days interviewing candidates and less than an hour sorting through all of it. I don't know if that's how it works everywhere, but I thought it was a little shortsighted when you're somewhat responsible for all of these physicians' futures. It was definitely eye opening.
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