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Navy SEAL trainee death now ruled a homicide

Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:22 pm
I live in Crestview so I heard all about this originally, but I'm not sure how big of a news story it was nationally. I want to say it was originally ruled an accident ( LINK), but now the San Diego ME has ruled it was a homicide.

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According to the autopsy reporter, surveillance video appeared to show an instructor dunking Lovelace under the water of a pool after he was observed to be struggling.


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A Navy SEAL trainee drowned after an instructor repeatedly dunked him underwater, violating training guidelines and contributing to the sailor’s death, according to a San Diego medical examiner's report released Wednesday that called the incident a homicide.

Seaman James Derek Lovelace died May 6 following a pool exercise at the grueling SEAL basic training course in Coronado. The Navy didn't announce the death until days later after officials were questioned by The Virginian-Pilot and NBC News. Navy officials initially described the incident as a training mishap during a routine exercise. But numerous sources told NBC News and The Pilot the death had been caused by an instructor going too far.

The medical examiner's report agreed: "It is our opinion that the actions, and inactions, of the instructors and other individuals involved were excessive and directly contributed to the death, and the manner of death is best classified as homicide."

Lovelace, 21, of Crestview, Fla., had been struggling during an exercise in which trainees tread water in a pool while wearing combat fatigues and boots, according to the medical examiner’s report. During the exercise, “instructors are reportedly advised to not dunk or pull students underwater,” the report says.

Lovelace was struggling before the instructor put his hands on him, multiple witnesses told investigators. His "face was purple and his lips were blue," according to the report.

In a video of the incident reviewed by investigators, the instructor “approaches the decedent and apparently dunks the decedent underwater. Over the course of the next approximately five minutes, the instructor follows the decedent around the pool, continually splashing him with water. The decedent is also splashed by other instructors in the water. Throughout the time period, the decedent is observed to go under the water multiple times.”

At one point, the report says, another student approached Lovelace and tried to help him keep his head above the surface. Another individual considered “calling a time-out” to stop the exercise, the report said, but he failed to do so.

"The instructor appears to again dunk the decedent and continues to follow him around the water," the report says. "The instructor also appears to pull the decedent partially up and out of the water and then push him back. Eventually, the decedent is assisted to the side of the pool where he is pulled from the water.”

Lovelace was initially responsive but later died, the medical examiner's report says.

He was in the first week of Basic Underwater Demolition/SEALs training, or BUD/S. The six-month course is considered among the most punishing military training programs in the world, with four out of five trainees failing to complete the program and become SEALs.

Lovelace had joined the Navy six months earlier, walking away from a college baseball scholarship to pursue his dream of becoming a SEAL, family members said.

The coroner’s report lists his death as a drowning, with cardiomegaly as a possible contributing factor. Cardiomegaly, better known as having an enlarged heart, can cause heart failure.

The instructor involved, a petty officer first class who joined the Navy in 2008, had continued in his job immediately following the incident. He was removed from duty after a story by The Pilot and NBC News challenged the narrative initially released by the Navy.

The instructor remains on administrative duty, Navy officials said, and no charges have been filed.

Naval Criminal Investigative Service spokesman Ed Buice said his agency's investigation into the death is ongoing, and no “conclusions have been reached regarding criminal culpability."

"It is important to understand that 'homicide' refers to 'death at the hands of another' and a homicide is not inherently a crime," Buice wrote in a statement.

A Navy SEAL spokesman declined to comment on the report, citing the NCIS probe and a separate ongoing investigation by Naval Special Warfare Center, which oversees BUD/S and other SEAL training programs.

"Out of respect for the integrity of the investigative process, we can't discuss the ongoing investigations or any of their individual elements," said Navy spokesman Lt. Trevor Davids.

Lovelace was the fifth SEAL in four months to lose consciousness in a BUD/S pool exercise, according to Navy safety data, a significant increase in reported blackouts compared to previous years.

Following the death, Davids said, the command paused training and retrained instructors on safety protocols.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:25 pm to
This was the guy that drowned during pool training?

I found that odd at the time as I did Water Survival with military instructors and SOP was to have Rescue Swimmers in the water at all times. Not to mention, SEAL training is designed to encourage trainees to ring out on their own. No clue why an instructor would force a guy back into the water.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:28 pm to
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No clue why an instructor would force a guy back into the water.

bad situation, could have similar affect as the Paris Island incident back during Nam
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:28 pm to
All you did was weaken a country today...
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:29 pm to
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All you did was weaken a country today...



I want the truth!
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:31 pm to
I want the truth!

We all know what you can't handle!
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:32 pm to
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We all know what you can't handle!



don't make me go code red on your arse!
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:32 pm to
Was another link with more details in the comments section, posted to OP.
Posted by BabySam
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:46 pm to
I worked with his father and couldn't believe the news. On top of his son's death, his wife had died in a car wreck just 11 months prior. Derek was a great kid and put everything he had into becoming a SEAL after his college baseball career was sidetracked from injury.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:51 pm to
Now that Tony is gone from the team, I'm not sure how quickly Gibbs will be able to solve this.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:52 pm to
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Not to mention, SEAL training is designed to encourage trainees to ring out on their own. No clue why an instructor would force a guy back into the water.




Sounds like what the instructor was further encouraging

He went too far though
Posted by PT24-7
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:59 pm to
So how did he drown when he was not dead after leaving the water? I don't quite understand what killed him. I guess I've always thought if you drown you are pulled out of the water and never are revived?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Now that Tony is gone from the team, I'm not sure how quickly Gibbs will be able to solve this.


We'll see Tony when it goes to trial.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:01 pm to
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I guess I've always thought if you drown you are pulled out of the water and never are revived?

my son drown right in front of me, I pulled him out of the water and revived him, the doc told me later that he had drowned
Posted by TennesseeFan25
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:01 pm to
Didn't drown per say, cause of death was ruled enlarged heart
Posted by PT24-7
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:02 pm to
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my son drown right in front of me, I pulled him out of the water and revived him, the doc told me later that he had drowned


Yeah, but I take it he wasn't responsive when he drowned? This says the guy was responsive when he left the pool but later died and cause was drowning...idk
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:04 pm to
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Didn't drown per say, cause of death was ruled enlarged heart


Was a contributing factor, but still ruled a drowning.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:04 pm to
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This says the guy was responsive when he left the pool but later died and cause was drowning...idk

yeah, that doesn't sound quite right
Posted by PT24-7
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Didn't drown per say, cause of death was ruled enlarged heart


"The coroner’s report lists his death as a drowning"
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:07 pm to
Agree, sounds kind of bizarre.

Also for any non-readers:
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Naval Criminal Investigative Service spokesman Ed Buice said his agency's investigation into the death is ongoing, and no “conclusions have been reached regarding criminal culpability." "It is important to understand that 'homicide' refers to 'death at the hands of another' and a homicide is not inherently a crime," Buice wrote in a statement.


The description in the article sounded to me at first read like the typical training harassment those guys get and expect from instructors. ETA: it's hard without knowing the typical details of performance and behavior, e.g., trainees having similar trouble but being able to overcome and push through it or was he above and beyond and typically struggling condition.

A tragedy regardless though.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:11 pm
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