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re: What's the point of marriage?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:10 pm to Halftrack
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:10 pm to Halftrack
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Just give it time.
My grandparents, parents, brother and sister all are still giving it time. They also seem very happy and fulfilled in their lives; could be the kids/grandkids, or it could be having someone to share their life with everyday. Sure they aren't happy 24/7, but doesn't mean that a lot of people aren't actually happily married.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:11 pm to dgnx6
Probably has a good bit to do with the ease in getting divorced and the obsession with "feeling" in love all the time.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:18 pm to truthteller34
The institution of marriage/single parent households have been common in certain minority segments of our society for decades. How's that working out for them?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:20 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Monogamy is something humans created it's not natural
Yes, but it has been crucial to the development of civilization.
Take a look at polyamorous, village-raise-the-child societies. They haven't done a goddamn thing.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:20 pm to truthteller34
If it flies, floats or fricks, it's best to rent it.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:22 pm to truthteller34
If you live in a state with strong common law marriage laws just shacking up with a girl for a long time basically makes you married as in how she can frick your life over if she wants to. At that point might as well get the tax break and let her in your hospital room in an emergency.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:23 pm to truthteller34
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Sure the tax breaks are nice, but marriage has lost a lot of its initial value.
Uh... no
Just to help strengthen the OP's argument, you don't even have the incentive of tax breaks to get married.
You actually suffer a pretty large tax penalty for getting married vs just shacking up with your S.O.
And that is true whether it's a scenario with children or without.
Getting married lumps both spouses income together to throw you into a higher tax bracket in most cases vs reporting your income individually.
If you own a home and are able to itemize your deductions, that will be all you get as a married couple.
On the other hand, if you are simply living with your significant other, you can take all the deductions for mortgage interest, taxes, contributions, etc. against your income and then the S.O. can double down by taking the standard deduction on her individual return, which is an additional $6,900 in deductions.
Even better if you have a kid together as the S.O. can now file as head of household and take the child credit and daycare credit all against her income.
Just think of all the votes you wasted on evangelical republican politicians who wouldn't even lift a finger to eliminate the tax on marriage. They just wanted a share of the tithes.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:23 pm to truthteller34
When you're married, single life seems attractive. But I couldn't imagine life without my crumb eaters, so that's what's marriage is about, that and having a soul mate in the old ball and chain.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:24 pm to Jobin
quote:Noticibly missing from your list is "helps you make and raise your children".
If it flies, floats or fricks, it's best to rent it.
I've always understood the "fricks" portion of that 3-F axiom to imply recreational fricking.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:26 pm to truthteller34
To my logical brain it just doesn't make sense. I seriously cannot see one positive that comes from it if you're not religious.
Except maybe it makes the bride and your family happy for a little while.
Call me a cynic, but it all just seems silly to me.
Except maybe it makes the bride and your family happy for a little while.
Call me a cynic, but it all just seems silly to me.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:27 pm to truthteller34
I dont know. Women are a pain in the arse though. I just got played and I feel stupid.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:29 pm to truthteller34
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Sure the tax breaks are nice, but marriage has lost a lot of its initial value.
So you are just talking out your arse, eh?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:29 pm to rintintin
Marriage provides a structure for creating families within a society. This is how a society perpetuates itself. Society is the family writ large.
Our society making it about romantic storybook love, and self-fulfillment was a fatal mistake
It's about families and it is crucial to civilization
Our society making it about romantic storybook love, and self-fulfillment was a fatal mistake
It's about families and it is crucial to civilization
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:29 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Just think of all the votes you wasted on evangelical republican politicians who wouldn't even lift a finger to eliminate the tax on marriage.
Take this shite to the poli board, you know to much about the tax code to be trusted..
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:32 pm to HempHead
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Yes, but it has been crucial to the development of civilization.
Exactly. Advanced human civilization isn't "natural" on a base level either. But what separates humans from other species is that we rise above our base impulses and establish culture and civilization through organized values and norms.
The argument that it isn't "natural" is very poor. If humanity returned to and succumbed to a mere state of nature it would be very ugly and primitive.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:32 pm to Hickok
Unless she cooks, there is no point. Most today depend on the spineless male to cook, frick that shite.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:33 pm to genro
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Marriage provides a structure for creating families within a society. This is how a society perpetuates itself. Society is the family writ large. Our society making it about romantic storybook love, and self-fulfillment was a fatal mistake It's about families and it is crucial to civilization
I always like your posts. Very insightful. I'm also drunk
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:34 pm to lsufan_26
True dat... The Pusey make you dumb shite
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:34 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Even better if you have a kid together as the S.O. can now file as head of household and take the child credit and daycare credit all against her income.
On a serious note, is this how you should go about it. My fiancée and I had a baby in March, won't be married until 2017. Should she claim baby on 2016 taxes?
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