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re: Phil Jackson: "LeBron needs to takeover like Michael did"

Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:37 pm to
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The secret to basketball is that it's not about basketball.
Bill Simmons 'Book of Basketball'

And yes, rise of advanced metrics has coincided with the rise of autism, many of whom are naturally drawn to the internet, and it's hurt a lot of meaningful sports discussion
Posted by cincyykid
in a swamp far far away
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:37 pm to
Which finals did he lose again?
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:38 pm to
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Which finals did he lose again?

The first round of the playoffs doesn't matter? What about the semi? What about conf finals?
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111208 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Which finals did he lose again?
So a season is only a failed season if you lose in the Finals?

Got it!
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40875 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Brady is clutch for winning super bowl against Seahawks. If Butler doesn't make int(which has nothing to do with Brady), he isn't clutch



Besides the touchdown records that Brady participated in, what are Brady's career stats like vs all time greats like manning, montana, and lets say.....Marino?

I am aksing this because I don't know. I just wonder had Brady won maybe on SB would everyone still be hanging from his pubes.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111208 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Besides the touchdown records that Brady participated in, what are Brady's career stats like vs all time greats like manning, montana, and lets say.....Marino?
Not based on raw numbers, and using the efficiency numbers, which I think are best, I do believe he has the best case over all the guys you mentioned.

But they all pale in comparison to Rodgers.

That's things like TD%, INT%, YPA...etc.
Posted by The Human Fetus
Member since Mar 2006
556 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:41 pm to
You don't see Bryce Harper with a Chosen One tattoo.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:42 pm to
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You don't see Bryce Harper with a Chosen One tattoo.

Cool!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111208 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:43 pm to
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You don't see Bryce Harper with a Chosen One tattoo.
Must not let go 15 years later!!!
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40875 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Not based on raw numbers, and using the efficiency numbers


So you are using metrics? Am i right?

I'd rather raw numbers, isn't that what the HOF uses for induction? Not metrics?
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by The Human Fetus
Member since Mar 2006
556 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:44 pm to
so easy to ruffle those feathers

Poor shel
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111208 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:46 pm to
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So you are using metrics? Am i right?
Yes

quote:

I'd rather raw numbers
Then without looking he probably pales in comparison to Marino and Manning.

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isn't that what say the HOF uses for induction? Not metrics?
I don't think they have a standard of stats in their protocol they look at.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:46 pm to
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I'd rather raw numbers, isn't that what say the HOF uses for induction?
The HoF has no statistical requirements or standards.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111208 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:47 pm to
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so easy to ruffle those feathers Poor shel
Dude, careful with accusing others of having their feathers ruffled when you're talking about a tattoo some probably 17 year old kid got 15 years ago, and you've been mentioning it over and over lately.

Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40875 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:48 pm to
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The HoF has no statistical requirements or standards.


really? wow, learn something new every day.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Dude, careful with accusing others of having their feathers ruffled when you're talking about a tattoo some probably 17 year old kid got 15 years ago, and you've been mentioning it over and over lately.

No shite.

Dude's ruffled about a teenager getting a Chosen1 tattoo all these years later.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96189 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Dude, careful with accusing others of having their feathers ruffled when you're talking about a tattoo some probably 17 year old kid got 15 years ago, and you've been mentioning it over and over lately.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:54 pm to
Drazen Petrovic only played 5 NBA seasons, his best year was 22/3/2, never made an All Star team.

In the Hall due to European accomplishment/influence and dying young
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35680 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:56 pm to
Jordan still holds the all-time playoff points per game record with 33.5! That's called selfishness, taking over to win. That's Alpha! That's why Jordan won every NBA Finals!!!!!!

Contradictory, at #2 in NBA Finals scoring average...is Jerry West, who went 1-8 in the Finals while being selfish and taking over and dominating.

You can't beat these modern teams like the Spurs and Warriors with their passing and D rules with one guy trying to score every point.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96189 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:56 pm to
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Drazen Petrovic only played 5 NBA seasons, his best year was 22/3/2, never made an All Star team.

In the Hall due to European accomplishment/influence and dying young
Joe Namath is in the hall for wearing white cleats and screwing alot of women
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