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Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:28 am to Phat Phil
What I've seen is the huge number that you see on a bill is never what they are willing to accept as payment. You and your insurance company combine to pay about 10-20% of that total. It reminds me of the MSRP on a new vehicle. Nobody pays sticker.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:41 am to Phat Phil
A big part is because we accept a business model that no sane person would accept under any other circumstances.
Where else could a service provider not list prices for goods/services ANYWHERE? They tell you what you need, dont tell you what it costs there vs somewhere else, so you cant shop around, and then you get a bill. Sick people dont ask questions they know this.
The government gets a bad rap(rightfully so)
The insurance gets a bad rap (rightfully so)
The medical industry gets a pass in large. People just assume they are all Florence Nightingale.
Where else could a service provider not list prices for goods/services ANYWHERE? They tell you what you need, dont tell you what it costs there vs somewhere else, so you cant shop around, and then you get a bill. Sick people dont ask questions they know this.
The government gets a bad rap(rightfully so)
The insurance gets a bad rap (rightfully so)
The medical industry gets a pass in large. People just assume they are all Florence Nightingale.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:42 am to Phat Phil
Because nurse practitioners can practice independently and order all kinds of meaningless tests.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:49 am to Phat Phil
quote:
Why Are American Health Care Costs So High?
Consumers pay insurance.
Insurance pays doctors.
Doctors raise prices.
Insurance raises prices.
Consumers pay more to insurance.
Doctors and insurance continue cycle.
Healthy consumers start to consider dropping insurance to combat this system.
Obama passes law that makes this system mandatory.
Insurance and doctors cream pants.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:41 am to Phat Phil
quote:
Why Are American Health Care Costs So High?
1. Americans are fat
2. Americans sit on their arse too much
3. Americans smoke too much
4. Americans like to go to the ER inside of a PCP
5. Americans are fat
6. American drug companies pass the cost of research onto Americans disproportionally because the socialist medicine systems refuse to pay "market price."
7. The American healthcare system has been outdated for the last 25 years, but everytime the government tries to fix it they make it worse.
8. The American healthcare system does not have the same legal protections against lawsuits that the european systems do.
In summary the main reason that healthcare costs so much is because we spend too much money treating conditions that could be prevented by simply putting down the fork, exercising, and not smoking or drinking excessively.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 2:40 pm to Phat Phil
Been to an emergency room lately?
All of those welfare babies that are sick have NO health insurance to speak of, so they go to the ER to see a doctor. PLUS the cost of medication is ridiculous. If you want to make big money, go into pharmaceutical sales.....do you see the same connection I see?
BTW, I am a 38 year insulin dependent diabetic....think there isn't a cure for that? If they cured the disease, Eli Lilly, Medtronic, Becton-Dickinson, etc would lose money....and that's what it's all about.
All of those welfare babies that are sick have NO health insurance to speak of, so they go to the ER to see a doctor. PLUS the cost of medication is ridiculous. If you want to make big money, go into pharmaceutical sales.....do you see the same connection I see?
BTW, I am a 38 year insulin dependent diabetic....think there isn't a cure for that? If they cured the disease, Eli Lilly, Medtronic, Becton-Dickinson, etc would lose money....and that's what it's all about.
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