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re: question about school gun free zones
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:08 am to cdaniel76
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:08 am to cdaniel76
quote:but provision 5 under the concealed carry says the exact same thing.
No, you didn't, but be was just relaying info from the statute.
Provision #5 in my post above directly answers your question.
Yes, as long as it is contained completely inside your vehicle, you can have a firearm in your car.
Very confusing.
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:10 am to shawnlsu
quote:
I wish someone with proof could say if this applies to private yet publicly accessible parking lots. I argued with the safety guy of a well known local contractor about the legality of this in the parking lot of a plant recently (contractor lot outside the gates). He was very adamant about it being illegal to have it in the truck in the parking lot, I disagreed but didn't need to lose the contract over it.
Give me a minute and I will find it for you.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:10 am to meauxjeaux2
Provision #4 deals with conceal carry.
Provision #5 deals with having it contained inside the vehicle.
Neither one has bearing on the other. Don't think of them as addressing 1 subject. They both address different subjects.
Provision #5 directly answers your original question.
Provision #4 would address the question of "can I carry concealed inside my car on school property".
Provision #5 deals with having it contained inside the vehicle.
Neither one has bearing on the other. Don't think of them as addressing 1 subject. They both address different subjects.
Provision #5 directly answers your original question.
Provision #4 would address the question of "can I carry concealed inside my car on school property".
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:11 am to meauxjeaux2
While we're being snarky, sir, you need to learn to read. The provisions in C4 and C5 are different. That's why they're in entirely different provisions: 4 and 5. One doesn't affect the other.
C4 states that it is legal to carry a gun within 1000 feet of a school if it is entirely within private property or a private residence, or otherwise in accordance with having a concealed carry permit, which allows us to carry right up to the border of the campus.
C5 states that it is legal to carry the gun in the car as long as you are constitutionally allowed to do so.
C4 states that it is legal to carry a gun within 1000 feet of a school if it is entirely within private property or a private residence, or otherwise in accordance with having a concealed carry permit, which allows us to carry right up to the border of the campus.
C5 states that it is legal to carry the gun in the car as long as you are constitutionally allowed to do so.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:15 am to NewtonD
quote:guess i deserved that.
While we're being snarky, sir, you need to learn to read.
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:15 am to Who Me
quote:sorry bro. I'm a dick
Who Me
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:16 am to cdaniel76
As laws are written, you look at the word "or" as being the start of a sentence. In other words, you can place a period where the word "or" is. It clears up some confusion. Such as with the "in accordance with a concealed handgun permit..."
That isn't intended to read "entirely contained .....in accordance with a concealed handgun permit...." It does intend to read that it shall not apply in accordance with a concealed handgun permit.
As far as the OP, you can absolutely drive through the school zone, or even onto school property provided you are in compliance with the law.
That isn't intended to read "entirely contained .....in accordance with a concealed handgun permit...." It does intend to read that it shall not apply in accordance with a concealed handgun permit.
As far as the OP, you can absolutely drive through the school zone, or even onto school property provided you are in compliance with the law.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:16 am to shawnlsu
Found it
L.R.S. 32:292.1
LINK
L.R.S. 32:292.1
quote:
§292.1. Transportation and storage of firearms in privately owned motor vehicles
A. Except as provided in Subsection D of this Section, a person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or store such firearm in a locked, privately-owned motor vehicle in any parking lot, parking garage, or other designated parking area.
B. No property owner, tenant, public or private employer, or business entity or their agent or employee shall be liable in any civil action for damages resulting from or arising out of an occurrence involving a firearm transported or stored pursuant to this Section, other than for a violation of Subsection C of this Section.
C. No property owner, tenant, public or private employer, or business entity shall prohibit any person from transporting or storing a firearm pursuant to Subsection A of this Section. However, nothing in this Section shall prohibit an employer or business entity from adopting policies specifying that firearms stored in locked, privately-owned motor vehicles on property controlled by an employer or business entity be hidden from plain view or within a locked case or container within the vehicle.
D. This Section shall not apply to:
(1) Any property where the possession of firearms is prohibited under state or federal law.
(2) Any vehicle owned or leased by a public or private employer or business entity and used by an employee in the course of his employment, except for those employees who are required to transport or store a firearm in the official discharge of their duties.
(3) Any vehicle on property controlled by a public or private employer or business entity if access is restricted or limited through the use of a fence, gate, security station, signage, or other means of restricting or limiting general public access onto the parking area, and if one of the following conditions applies:
(a) The employer or business entity provides facilities for the temporary storage of unloaded firearms.
(b) The employer or business entity provides an alternative parking area reasonably close to the main parking area in which employees and other persons may transport or store firearms in locked, privately-owned motor vehicles.
Acts 2008, No. 684, §1.
LINK
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:18 am to Fratigerguy
quote:dammitt!!! see!!! what the hell is in compliance with the law???????
property provided you are in compliance with the law.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:20 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
sorry bro. I'm a dick
We are good bro. Don't worry I am not that thin skinned.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:22 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
what the hell is in compliance with the law???????
C'mon dude! It's not rocket science.
Are you a convicted felon who's not allowed to possess a firearm?
Are you carrying a firearm with the intent of committing a crime?
Are you carrying a firearm while in possession of illegal narcotics?
Etc, etc, etc...
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 8:23 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:28 am to cdaniel76
quote:ok,
Are you a convicted felon who's not allowed to possess a firearm?
Are you carrying a firearm with the intent of committing a crime?
Are you carrying a firearm while in possession of illegal narcotics?
Etc, etc, etc...
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:42 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
meauxjeaux2
Would you really leave your gun at home, drop your kids off, then go back and get your gun and go to work>
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:55 am to Spilled Milk
Yes. It wasn't really too much out of my way. I just wasn't sure and didn't want to take any chances.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:20 am to Who Me
Which property would be considered prohibited by state or federal law?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:25 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
dammitt!!! see!!! what the hell is in compliance with the law???????
As was said. Can you have a firearm in the first place? Are you following the statute on concealed carry, and are you following the law in the above cited statute? They really aren't that hard to read if you follow the cues. Start at the top. Place a period where you see the word "or". Now read the top line and the new sentence as one. Are you following that? If so, you are within your rights via the statute. 
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:56 am to meauxjeaux2
There is a grey area with this though.
It's legal to have it entirely contained in your car on school property. But it most likely is a breach of school policy. If the school wanted to, upon finding out about your firearm they could expel your kid and restrict your access to school property.
It's legal to have it entirely contained in your car on school property. But it most likely is a breach of school policy. If the school wanted to, upon finding out about your firearm they could expel your kid and restrict your access to school property.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:58 am to bapple
quote:wow
It's legal to have it entirely contained in your car on school property. But it most likely is a breach of school policy. If the school wanted to, upon finding out about your firearm they could expel your kid and restrict your access to school property.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:13 am to meauxjeaux2
Again that is just a guess but private property is private property so they can decide their policy.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:25 am to meauxjeaux2
DP
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 11:26 am
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