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re: George Zimmerman to auction off gun used to kill Treyvon Martin

Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:50 pm to
Why is this a white or black issue? Zimmerman might want to be white, but he isn't. It is a shame how many of you support someone who beats women.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15533 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 12:56 pm to
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Why is this a white or black issue? Zimmerman might want to be white, but he isn't. It is a shame how many of you support someone who beats women.


I don't support that crazy fricker, but he doesn't belong in jail because what anyone thinks of him from the Treyvon case. The evidence didn't show he was guilty by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:13 pm to
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So you are basically saying that you are taking Zimmerman's account of the incident as 100% fact.



I'm talking about the physical evidence. You know, the shite you and other idiots can't spin with your fanciful imaginations.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142443 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:38 pm to
LINK
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The auction site where George Zimmerman listed the gun that he said he used to kill Trayvon Martin now reports that the item is “no longer in the system.”
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An attorney for Martin’s family said Thursday that Zimmerman’s plan to auction the gun was “insulting and disrespectful.”

“It is insulting to this family that he would decide that he would sell the gun that he killed their child with,” Daryl D. Parks, one of the attorneys for the family, told The Washington Post. “Think about what that means: This is a gun that took a child’s life and now he wants to make money off of it.”



Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23832 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:29 pm to
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I'm talking about the physical evidence. You know, the shite you and other idiots can't spin with your fanciful imaginations.
Yes there was physical evidence that he beat the shite out of Zimmerman, but there is no way to tell that Zimmerman didn't engage the physical contact with Treyvon first. All we know is that he says he didn't. If he did start the altercation, and I'm sure he did, he is responsible and is in fact a murder.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:36 pm to
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Yes there was physical evidence that he beat the shite out of Zimmerman


Good. You accept this. I like the progress.

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but there is no way to tell that Zimmerman didn't engage the physical contact with Treyvon first.


You're right, but of course there is no evidence he initiated such contact.

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All we know is that he says he didn't.


AND, this is supported by at least absence of evidence to the contrary.

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If he did start the altercation


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he is responsible and is in fact a murder.


Meh. He is at least guilty of manslaughter.

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and I'm sure he did


And this is what? A "hunch"? "Instinct"? "Sixth sense"? Because there is no reliable evidence to support this.

Occam's Razor lays this out quickly - there is no question that Zimmerman was following Martin. He called 911 to report what he thought was suspicious behavior. He followed him as a concerned citizen (or busybody, depending on how you view it).

At some point, there was a verbal exchange. The way I believe it happened was more or less:

TM - "Dude? Why are you following me? Do you have a problem?"

GZ - "No. I don't have a problem."

TM - "Well, now you do." *PUNCHINTHEFACE*

Then it was most definitely on.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:38 pm to
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but there is no way to tell that Zimmerman didn't engage the physical contact with Treyvon first



There is one crucial gap in the timeline that necessitates an inference, who initiated the physical altercation. That Zimmerman was getting his arse kicked means little to me. Plenty of people start a fight then get their arse whipped.

I'm not sure of anything, but would not need very much convincing to believe Zimmerman initiated it. I'm willing to bet that if the jurors knew then what they know now about him, they would've convicted him.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7340 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:56 pm to
Five years from now, George Zimmerman will either be dead or he will have murdered another person. He's the sort of guy who pulls a gun on a neighbor because they're playing their stereo too loud or their dog gets loose.
Thank God the company had some sense and yanked the auction before it could happen. The whole thing is just a big "frick you" to the Martin family. Live your life quietly, don't rub it in people's faces.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4622 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:59 pm to
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No matter how it really went down, frick Zimmerman. What a piece of shite move.


And didn't he get into trouble a few times since the trial?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:03 pm to
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Wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world if they'd found him guilty.


Guilty for what? Shooting a little thug that went out of his way to attack him? Nah.
Posted by The Pain Train
Member since Feb 2013
3812 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6143 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:05 pm to
Yeah I got several grand just waiting on a Keltec PF9.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:13 pm to
That link I posted, you should read it. GZ didn't pick a fight with someone from 300 feet away. The evidence, the testimony, the phone records, all evidence that shows Trayvon had to go out of his way to confront GZ. To say or think otherwise is pure ignorance and proves you care more about the story than the truth.


Sorry resident tPOS apolgists, GZ got the correct verdict. The worst that can be said is that this incident created the BLM movement.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114038 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:19 pm to
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There is one crucial gap in the timeline that necessitates an inference, who initiated the physical altercation. That Zimmerman was getting his arse kicked means little to me. Plenty of people start a fight then get their arse whipped.

I'm not sure of anything, but would not need very much convincing to believe Zimmerman initiated it. I'm willing to bet that if the jurors knew then what they know now about him, they would've convicted him.


If I recall, Zimmerman had just got into his car to go somewhere. He noticed Martin and decided to follow him. Zimmerman called the police because he thought Martin looked suspect, the operator informed him to stay in his car because the police were on their way, however Zimmerman decided to get out of his car, go track down Martin and by the time the cops arrived, a fight between Martin & Zimmerman broke out then Zimmerman shot Martin right?
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:30 pm to
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If I recall, Zimmerman had just got into his car to go somewhere. He noticed Martin and decided to follow him. Zimmerman called the police because he thought Martin looked suspect, the operator informed him to stay in his car because the police were on their way, however Zimmerman decided to get out of his car, go track down Martin and by the time the cops arrived, a fight between Martin & Zimmerman broke out then Zimmerman shot Martin right?


Wrong. Everything you just stated is completely false. GZ was already out of his vehicle when he called 9-1-1 operator. When the operator said he didn't need to go looking for TM, he turned around and started moving back towards his truck. Trayvon was home free, but wanted to keep it real. Because tPOS.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23832 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:53 pm to
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When the operator said he didn't need to go looking for TM, he turned around and started moving back towards his truck.
How do you know this to be absolutely true? Because Zimmerman said it?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:57 pm to
He said it, phone records supoort it, eye witness testimony, physical evidence. Does everything you know about this trial begin and end with Nancy Grace?
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15360 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:58 pm to
I would buy it and put it on the mantle.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:59 pm to
Obama should bid
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